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FXUS63 KMPX 192154
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
354 PM CST FRI DEC 19 2014

.SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY)
ISSUED AT 354 PM CST FRI DEC 19 2014

LIKE LAST WEEKEND...WE ARE BACK INTO A WEATHER PATTERN FAVORABLE FOR
ENDLESS STRATUS THIS WEEKEND AS WAA IN THE 900 TO 700 MB LAYER
RESULTS IN ANOTHER STRONG INVERSION DEVELOPING...THOUGH NOWHERE NEAR
AS WARM AS THE WARM NOSE WE WERE DEALING WITH A WEEK AGO. THIS
INVERSION WILL KEEP MOISTURE TRAPPED BENEATH IT...AND PERSISTENT
SRLY LOW LEVEL WINDS WILL ONLY HELP REINFORCE THE MOISTURE AND KEEP
THE CLOUDS IN PLACE. ONLY HOPE IN THE SHORT TERM FOR SEEING SOME
CLEARING IS SAT AFTERNOON OUT IN WRN MN DEPENDING ON HOW FAR EAST
THE CLEARING CURRENTLY ACROSS THE CENTRAL DAKOTAS MAKES IT. FOR
NOW...WE HAVE THE STRATUS STAYING.

FOR PRECIP...THERE WILL BE THREE SHORTWAVES IMPACTING THE AREA
DURING JUST THE SHORT TERM. THE FIRST ONE IS OUT OVER NE MN INTO NRN
WI AND HAS BROUGHT THE OCCASIONAL SNOW REPORT TO THE US-8 CORRIDOR
IN WI...BUT THIS WILL BE OUT OF THE LADYSMITH AREA PRETTY QUICK THIS
AFTERNOON. WAVE TWO IS ALREADY MOVING INTO WRN MN PER COOLER CLOUD
TOPS MOVING IN. ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE SOME PV ADVECTION WITH THIS
FEATURE...OMEGA PLOTS SHOW VERY LITTLE VERTICAL MOTION GETTING
INDUCED BY THE WAVE...SO NOT THINKING WE WILL SEE MUCH PRECIP
OVERNIGHT. IN ADDITION...THIS WAVE LOOKS TO BRING ENOUGH MOISTURE
BACK INTO THE DGZ THAT THE PRIMARY P-TYPE WOULD BE SNOW AS WE GET A
SEEDER-FEEDER SCENARIO SETTING UP. FOR DRIZZLE...LIFT DOWN IN THE
STRATUS LAYER LOOKS WEAK AS WELL...SO DO NOT THINK WE WILL SEE MUCH
DRIZZLE EITHER. SHORT TERM HI-RES SUPPORT THE LIMITED PRECIP IDEA
TONIGHT...WITH NOTHING REALLY GENERATING MUCH IN THE WAY OF QPF.
GIVEN THE STILL LOW CONFIDENCE IN SEEING ANY PRECIP TONIGHT...KEPT
PRECIP MENTION TO A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SNOW WITH PATCHY FZDZ. THE
THIRD WAVE IS NOW MOVING ACROSS WASH/ORE AND WILL BE GETTING NEAR
WRN MN BY THE END OF THE SHORT TERM...BUT ANY POTENTIAL PRECIP WITH
IT LOOKS TO HOLD OFF UNTIL SATURDAY NIGHT.

ON THE FOG THREAT...THE PROBABILITY FOR DENSE FOG TONIGHT LOOKS VERY
LOW AS DEW POINTS LOOK TO REMAIN IN THE 20S. WILL LIKELY SEE DENSE
FOG DEVELOP ALONG THE WEST EDGE OF THE STRATUS DECK...BUT THE EDGE
OF THE STRATUS DECK IS FAR ENOUGH WEST TO KEEP THE DENSE FOG ACROSS
THE DAKOTAS. INSTEAD...EXPECT FAIRLY WIDESPREAD VISIBILITIES BETWEEN
1 AND 3 MILES IN HAZE AND BR TO DEVELOP ACROSS MOST OF THE MN AREA
OVERNIGHT.

FINALLY...THE CLOUDS AND CONTINUED SRLY WINDS WILL REALLY LIMIT THE
TEMPERATURE DROP TONIGHT. IN FACT...TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY
CONTINUE TO SLOWLY RISE THIS ENTIRE PERIOD...FINISHING IN THE UPPER
20S/LOWER 30S BY SUNSET SATURDAY. BOOSTED LOWS A FEW DEGREES TONIGHT
AS RESULT...WITH LOWS TONIGHT BASICALLY A DEGREE OR TWO COLDER THAN
THE TEMPERATURES WE ARE SEEING THIS AFTERNOON.

.LONG TERM...(SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY)
ISSUED AT 354 PM CST FRI DEC 19 2014

A WARMING TREND WILL CONTINUE IN THE EARLY PORTION OF THE LONG
TERM (SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY) AS SOUTHERLY FLOW INCREASES
AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ARRIVING FROM THE
DAKOTAS. ALL OF THE DETERMINISTIC SOLUTIONS WERE SIMILAR WITH THIS
IDEA TODAY WITH A SURFACE LOW PUSHING INTO WEST CENTRAL MN MONDAY
AFTERNOON. INITIALLY...SMALL AMOUNTS OF PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP
SATURDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI IN
THE BEST LOW LEVEL WAA ALONG WITH WEAK FORCING ALOFT. THE PTYPE
WILL BE A WINTRY MIX BUT AGAIN AMOUNTS LOOK TO BE VERY LIGHT. A
LULL IN THE FORCING AND DEEP LAYER MOISTURE IS FORECAST ON SUNDAY
BEFORE THE MAIN IMPULSE ARRIVES LATER SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY.
THIS LATTER FEATURE WILL BRING A PERIOD OF RAIN TO THE TWIN
CITIES...AS WELL AS POINTS TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ON MONDAY. AREAS
OF CENTRAL MN COULD SEE A FEW INCHES OF SNOW DEPENDING ON HOW THE
THERMAL PROFILE ENDS UP. A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW IS EXPECTED ACROSS
ALL OF THE REGION MONDAY NIGHT AS THE UPPER LEVEL IMPULSE DEEPENS
OVER THE REGION AND BECOMES A CLOSED LOW. IT IS HERE THAT
DIFFERENCES BEGIN TO SHOW UP THAT LAST THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF
THE LONG TERM. ALTHOUGH THE GFS AND ECMWF WOULD PLACE MUCH OF OUR
FORECAST AREA IN ACCUMULATING SNOW FROM TUESDAY THROUGH
WEDNESDAY...THEY DO IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. THE GFS WOULD BRING A
SURFACE LOW FROM CHICAGO TO THE WESTERN TIP OF UPPER MICHIGAN
DURING THIS PERIOD. THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE DRY SLOT THAT PUSHES
NORTHWARD ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI AS WELL WHICH CUTS DOWN
ON THE ACCUMULATING SNOW POTENTIAL. THE ECMWF ON THE OTHER HAND
HAS A RAPIDLY DEEPENING SURFACE LOW MOVING NORTHWARD ACROSS OHIO
AND INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES ON WEDNESDAY. THE LOW DEEPENS 29
MILLIBARS IN 24 HOURS WITH 10 MILLIBARS PROGGED AS THE LOW MOVES
NORTHWARD ACROSS OHIO FROM 12Z-18Z ON WEDNESDAY. BECAUSE OF THE
LOW BEING FARTHER EAST...THE DRY SLOW IT FARTHER EAST AND THE FA
IS IN A MUCH BETTER DEFORMATION ZONE WITH ACCUMULATING SNOW
LIKELY. THE GEM LOOKS TO BE AN OUTLIER WITH LITTLE TO NO
PRECIPITATION. CONTINUITY OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS HAS BEEN QUITE
GOOD WITH THE ECMWF. THE GFS HAS BEEN BOUNCING AROUND AND THIS HAS
ALSO BEEN SEEN IN THE PARALLEL RUN AS WELL. HENCE...IF THE ECMWF
HOLDS...HIGHER POPS WILL BE NEEDED FROM TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY
WITH A WHITE CHRISTMAS IN STORE.

YET ANOTHER POTENTIAL ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENT IS SHOWN BY THE
ECMWF FROM FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY. THIS EVENT COULD BE WELL UNDERWAY
BY DAYBREAK FRIDAY IN THE TWIN CITIES. THE GFS IS STARTING TO HINT
AT THIS IDEA WHILE THE 12Z PARALLEL RUN OF THE GFS IS SIMILAR TO
THE ECMWF BUT A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH. OVERALL...WE COULD END UP
WITH QUITE A BIT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION BY NEXT WEEKEND IF THE ECMWF
FORECAST REMAINS ON TRACK FOR THESE TWO EVENTS.

&&

.AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SATURDAY AFTERNOON)
ISSUED AT 1159 AM CST FRI DEC 19 2014

MVFR AND LOWER STRATUS HAS NOW SETTLED IN ACROSS THE ENTIRE MPX
CWA AND IT WILL BE HERE INTO NEXT WEEK. WE WILL SEE SOME MINOR
VIS/CIG IMPROVEMENTS THIS AFTERNOON...BEFORE LIFR/IFR CONDS RETURN
OVERNIGHT. SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A WELL DEFINED...THOUGH COMPACT
WAVE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS THAT WILL MOVE ACROSS MN THIS EVENING. LOW
CONFIDENCE ON IF IT WILL ACTUALLY PRODUCE ANY PRECIP THOUGH. OMEGA
PLOTS SHOW LITTLE OMEGA GETTING GENERATED BY THIS WAVE...SO DO
NOT THINK THERE WILL BE ENOUGH LIFT TO GENERATE MUCH MORE THAN
OCCASIONAL FLURRIES OR DZ...SO HAVE KEPT TAFS DRY FOR NOW. WINDS
WILL BE FAIRLY PERSISTENT OUT OF THE SE THIS TAF PERIOD...HENCE
WHY CONFIDENCE IS SO HIGH IN STRATUS REMAINING IN PLACE.

KMSP...LIKE LAST WEEKEND...WE WILL SPEND ANOTHER WEEKEND UNDER THE
INFLUENCE OF LOW STRATUS. CONFIDENCE HIGH IN IFR CIGS DEVELOPING
OVERNIGHT. WILL LIKELY SEE CONDITIONS IMPROVE LATE SATURDAY
MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON...BUT CIGS WILL LIKELY REMAIN BELOW 1500
FT. THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT PRECIP OVERNIGHT INTO
SATURDAY MORNING...BUT BEST FORCING LOOKS TO BE GOING INTO NRN MN
AND LOW LEVEL FORCING DOES NOT LOOK TO BE ENOUGH TO GET MUCH IN
THE WAY OF DZ GOING EITHER.

/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/
SUN...MVFR/IFR. CHC -FZDZ/-RA/-SN. WINDS SSE 7-10KTS.
MON...IFR. -RA WITH -RA/SN MIX LATE. WINDS SE 7-10KTS.
TUE...MVFR/IFR. RA/SN MIX CHANGING TO ALL SN LATE. WINDS NW 12 KTS.

&&

.MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MN...NONE.
WI...NONE.
&&

$$

SHORT TERM...MPG
LONG TERM...RAH
AVIATION...MPG









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