


Tropical Cyclone Discussion
Issued by NWS
Issued by NWS
444 WTNT42 KNHC 140248 TCDAT2 Tropical Storm Lorenzo Discussion Number 4 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL122025 1100 PM AST Mon Oct 13 2025 Satellite images shows that Lorenzo is producing a small area of deep convection near the center of the tropical storm, with the bulk of its associated thunderstorm activity well to the east. While the system doesn`t appear that well organized on conventional satellite, WSF-M microwave images from a few hours ago revealed that Lorenzo has a small central core with some character. Additionally, recent scatterometer data indicated a large area of 45-kt winds were present. The initial wind speed is set to 50 kt, assuming some undersampling based on the coarse ASCAT resolution. Lorenzo is moving northwestward at 11 kt, and that motion should continue overnight. A gradual turn to the north and northeast with an increase in forward speed is anticipated late Tuesday into Wednesday due to the storm moving around the northwestern periphery of the subtropical ridge into a faster flow regime. The biggest change to note to this forecast is that most of the guidance now turn the system to the east late this week and then to the south as the cyclone, or its remnants, get trapped within the subtropical ridge. Little change was made to the previous forecast during the first couple of days, then a large eastward and southward adjustment was made at long range, resulting in a sharp equatorward hook of Lorenzo this weekend. The intensity forecast is quite challenging. An upper-level low that has been shearing Lorenzo is forecast to drop to the southwest, resulting in decreasing shear during the next couple of days. This synoptic evolution is historically well known for intensification given the recent formation of the small inner core over warm waters. However, very dry air is present in the environment, and Lorenzo should embed itself deep into a recent Saharan Air Layer (SAL) outbreak to the north within a couple of days. There are credible models that respond to these factors by weakening this into a tropical depression in a few days, like the HAFS-A/B, or a category 1/2 hurricane, like the HWRF/HMON. The new forecast splits these extremes, ending up a bit higher than the previous official forecast but near the HFIP Corrected Consensus model HCCA. It should be emphasized that this is a low-confidence prediction for all of the conditions listed above and the cyclone`s small size, making it susceptible to large upward or downward changes in a short period of time. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 14/0300Z 16.2N 42.8W 50 KT 60 MPH 12H 14/1200Z 17.4N 43.9W 50 KT 60 MPH 24H 15/0000Z 19.3N 44.5W 50 KT 60 MPH 36H 15/1200Z 21.6N 44.2W 55 KT 65 MPH 48H 16/0000Z 24.3N 41.9W 60 KT 70 MPH 60H 16/1200Z 26.6N 39.0W 60 KT 70 MPH 72H 17/0000Z 29.0N 35.0W 55 KT 65 MPH 96H 18/0000Z 29.0N 28.9W 50 KT 60 MPH 120H 19/0000Z 26.0N 31.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL $$ Forecaster Blake