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Issued by NWS Detroit/Pontiac, MI
Issued by NWS Detroit/Pontiac, MI
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058 FXUS63 KDTX 081720 AFDDTX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 120 PM EDT Wed Oct 8 2025 .KEY MESSAGES... - Frost Advisory in effect Midnight tonight until 9am Thursday for much of Southeast Michigan outside of the Detroit urban heat island. - Potential for frost Friday morning as temperatures fall into the mid to upper 30s. - Unsettled conditions possible this weekend as low pressure moves into the Great Lakes. && .AVIATION... Northerly flow will continue to advect lake moisture inland across mainly KPTK to the metro terminals, bringing SCT-BKN cu of 4-5kft to the region. Winds generally remain light, with some sporadic gust potential to around 18 knots during daylight hours. Otherwise, an unseasonably strong high pressure system continues to build in over the state, which will promote clear skies late tonight through tomorrow. For DTW/D21 Convection...No convection will occur through the TAF period. DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES... * Low for ceiling 5000 ft or less this afternoon. && .PREV DISCUSSION... Issued at 324 AM EDT Wed Oct 8 2025 DISCUSSION... Broad area of 1028mb surface high pressure is analyzed across north- central CONUS this morning, with SE Michigan residing on its eastern flank. Most notable forecast element today is the airmass change, with cold advection ongoing at issuance. 850mb temperatures drop near/below 0 C within the base of the thermal trough, barely boosting daytime highs to 60 degrees even under maximum solar insolation. This will be the first day since early September with forecast temperatures falling below normal for all three climate sites. Diurnal cloud cover will rely on Lake Huron moisture flux in an otherwise very dry airmass (PWAT values in the 5th percentile per daily climo). Should have no problem activating Lake Huron however with the large delta T and northerly flow to support healthy coverage of afternoon cloud downwind of the lake. The cooler airmass also poses concern for frost development both Thursday and Friday mornings. NBM min temps and majority of LREF members are forecast to fall into the mid to upper 30s, well within advisory thresholds. There is a signal for lake cloud to be redirected inland as the high pressure center drifts into Ontario late tonight, which could disrupt radiational cooling for the lakeshore counties. Thus coolest temperatures are expected furthest inland with less certainty in frost development near the lakeshore. Similar conditions expected on Thursday with daytime highs right around 60 degrees, although the high pressure center will have shifted into eastern Ontario by this point. Easterly flow trajectories across Lake Erie will be the main source of any diurnal cloud. Outside of the local area, will be paying close attention to the upper level pattern Thursday as a PV anomaly moves across central Canada. Models begin to diverge as the wave moves into Ontario Thursday afternoon, with many solutions breaking off the PV anomaly and sending it equatorward toward Lower Michigan late Friday into the weekend (08.00z GFS/NAM/ECMWF). Others keep the PV anomaly in tact and shear it eastward with the mean flow (07.18z ECMWF), keeping it north of the Great Lakes. The variability is noted in ensemble QPF probabilities, with about 40-50% of members generating measurable rainfall (at least 0.01") through the weekend. If the upper low does in fact drop into Lower Michigan, conditions will be unsettled with potential for rain/clouds and cooler temperatures. The alternative scenario affords a drier weekend. Substantial increase in PoPs in the latest NBM dataset reflect a trend in 00z guidance toward the wetter solution. MARINE... Continued cold advection sustains northerly wind between 10 and 20 kt across the central Great Lakes through the day. The long fetch down Lake Huron will bring gusts to 25 kt and high waves over 5 feet across the southern basin. A Small Craft Advisory remains in effect for the nearshore waters through late this evening. High pressure then builds directly into the area tonight and offers lighter winds and waves through Thursday. This high departs by Friday, opening the door for modest southwest wind ahead of the next cold front arriving into the western Great Lakes. This front will track through the region this weekend. && .DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...Frost Advisory from midnight tonight to 9 AM EDT Thursday for MIZ047>049-053>055-060>063-068>070-075-082-083. Lake Huron...Small Craft Advisory until 10 PM EDT this evening for LHZ421- 441>443. Lake St Clair...None. Michigan waters of Lake Erie...None. && $$ AVIATION.....AM DISCUSSION...MV MARINE.......TF You can obtain your latest National Weather Service forecasts online at www.weather.gov/detroit.