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Tropical Storm Lorena Discussion Number   5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       EP122025
800 PM MST Tue Sep 02 2025

A pair of AMSR2 and GMI microwave passes from several hours ago
revealed that Lorena`s structure has improved significantly through
the day, with the 37-GHZ channel in particular showing a
well-defined cyan ring.  The center is embedded beneath a Central
Dense Overcast, and Dvorak intensity estimates from TAFB and SAB
are a consensus T3.5/55 kt.  This is also supported by some of the
UW-CIMSS objective numbers, and the initial intensity is therefore
set--possibly conservatively given the structure--at 55 kt.

Lorena has a low-level structure and small size that would make it
a prime suspect for rapid intensification, especially since it will
be in an environment of low shear and over warm ocean temperatures
for the next 36 hours.  In fact, the SHIPS Rapid Intensification
(RI) index now shows a 3 in 4 chance of a 30-kt increase in
Lorena`s winds over the next 24 hours.  The NHC intensity forecast
therefore explicitly shows RI during the next day or so and most
closely follows the SHIPS and LGEM models, which are the highest
guidance, during that time.  After 36 hours, increasing shear and
colder water temperatures are expected lead to weakening, which
itself could be rapid due to Lorena`s small size.  Although there
is significant uncertainty on where Lorena will end up in 4-5 days
(see discussion below), the cyclone will likely not exist anymore
by day 5, and that is when dissipation is shown in the forecast.

Lorena continues to move northwestward, or 315/12 kt.  The first 36
hours or so of the track forecast are fairly straightforward, with
a slower northwestward motion expected while the cyclone moves
around the western periphery of a mid-level high centered over
Mexico.  Things are trickier after 36 hours.  Lorena will be moving
through a weakness in the subtropical ridge, but how much northward
progress it makes will depend on how long it remains strong.  A
minority of models, particularly the GFS, keep a stronger Lorena
moving northeastward across the Baja California peninsula toward
Sonora.  However, moderate to strong southwesterly shear is likely
to set in over Lorena in 48-72 hours, and a good chunk of the other
models, including many of the GEFS ensemble members, keep a
weakening Lorena offshore the west coast of the Baja California
peninsula with landfall never occurring.  This new NHC forecast
blends the previous official forecast with the latest HCCA, Florida
State Superensemble, and GEFS ensemble mean, showing a slower
motion on day 4 and 5, and introducing the possibility that Lorena
doesn`t reach mainland Mexico as a tropical cyclone.


Key Messages:

1.  Heavy rainfall associated with Tropical Storm Lorena will begin
to affect Baja California Sur on Wednesday, southwestern Sonora by
Thursday, and contribute to heavy rainfall concerns across Arizona
late Wednesday through Friday. This will increase the risk of
life-threatening flash floods and mudslides across Mexico,
especially in areas of higher terrain. Isolated to scattered
instances of flash flooding are possible across Arizona through
Friday.

2. Although rapid intensification is possible through Wednesday
while Lorena is offshore, the storm is expected to weaken while it
approaches the Baja California peninsula on Thursday and Friday.
Regardless, tropical storm conditions are possible through Thursday
along portions of the west coast of Baja California Sur.
Interests in Baja California Sur should closely monitor the latest
forecast updates.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  03/0300Z 20.2N 109.7W   55 KT  65 MPH
 12H  03/1200Z 21.2N 111.1W   70 KT  80 MPH
 24H  04/0000Z 22.3N 112.6W   85 KT 100 MPH
 36H  04/1200Z 23.4N 113.5W   90 KT 105 MPH
 48H  05/0000Z 24.6N 113.9W   75 KT  85 MPH
 60H  05/1200Z 25.6N 113.8W   55 KT  65 MPH
 72H  06/0000Z 26.6N 113.3W   40 KT  45 MPH
 96H  07/0000Z 28.1N 112.4W   25 KT  30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H  08/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
Forecaster Berg