


Prognostic Meteorological Discussion
Issued by NWS
Issued by NWS
479 FXUS02 KWBC 020756 PMDEPD Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 356 AM EDT Tue Sep 2 2025 Valid 12Z Fri Sep 05 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 09 2025 ...Overview... An amplified upper pattern will be in place as the medium range period begins Friday, with an upper low over Ontario anchoring troughing across a good portion of the central and eastern U.S. and allowing for below average temperatures behind multiple cold fronts. Rounds of showers and storms are possible with these cold fronts on the leading edge of the trough across the southern/central Plains into the Northeast. Lingering ridging across the interior West could continue to bring above normal temperatures to the Northwest before a likely cooling trend by the weekend. Monsoonal/tropical moisture influenced by Tropical Depression Twelve-E is forecast to come into much of the West late this week into the weekend for possibly widespread showers that could cause localized flash flooding. Moisture generally is forecast to push east into the central/southern Plains early next week, but details will depend on the eventual track of T.D. Twelve-E as well as other features like shortwaves in the vicinity. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... Model guidance starts the medium range period in good agreement with the aforementioned upper low/trough, with typical spread in shortwaves rounding the trough that could affect frontal positions and QPF over the weekend. A complicating factor arises in the forecast with the track of T.D. Twelve-E and its resulting effects on the pattern. GFS runs have shown the tropical system take a northeasterly turn into Baja California with remnant energy continuing over northern Mexico into the southern Plains. Meanwhile, non-NCEP guidance has tended to favor a more western track, including the 12Z EC and CMC that lingered the tropical system just offshore Baja while weakening, and the newer 00Z EC/CMC that take the system westward away from Baja. Ensemble members from dynamical and AI-based models show spread with some members moving northeast and some moving northwest or west, so this does not yield confidence in leaning toward one solution or another. Recent NHC forecast tracks have shown an in between solution where the system is slower to curve northeast than the GFS, but it does curve and impact Baja. It seems that regardless some troughing will make its way into the south-central U.S. this weekend into early next week, but the tropical system would affect its depth and the resulting rainfall forecast. Farther west, a Pacific upper low is forecast to spin initial troughing into northern California by Saturday and lifting through the Northwest Sunday. Then the low/trough itself will gradually track eastward toward the West Coast early next week, with some typical model spread. Meanwhile, watching a shortwave that dives southeast through central Canada on the western side of the upper low, reaching the Upper Midwest with more troughing by around next Tuesday. 00Z models came in with reasonably good agreement with that feature (after the 12Z CMC was a fast outlier). The WPC forecast was based on a multi-model deterministic blend early in the forecast period. As the period progressed, lessened the proportion of deterministic guidance in favor of the ensemble means, with the means reaching half the model blend by Day 6 and more Day 7 amid increasing spread. ...Weather/Hazards Highlights... Moisture is forecast to flow into the western U.S. as shortwaves undercut the mean upper ridge and as troughing edges toward the West Coast. The monsoonal moisture looks to be influenced by what is currently T.D. Twelve-E, bringing well above normal precipitable water values that end up stretching through much of the West. Large Marginal Risks are in place for Days 4 and 5 in the Intermountain West as localized flash flooding is possible in this moist environment. Instability looks to be particularly high in the Desert Southwest, and would not be surprised to need Slight Risks eventually there. Currently though the greatest instability axis (eastern California, southern Nevada, western Arizona) is located west of where the models focus QPF (more in the Mogollon Rim), limiting confidence in the placement. Moisture and upper-level support for rain and storms will shift gradually eastward this weekend into early next week, spreading into the southern and central Plains, but the details are dependent on the T.D. track. Generally some precipitation looks to expand into parts of the Plains on Saturday with chances for heavier rain by early next week. Frontal boundaries moving through the central and eastern U.S. ahead of the primary trough late this week will provide a focus for rain and some convection. At this point rainfall mainly looks to stay below Marginal Risk levels for flash flooding concerns. One exception could be the central U.S. though, where the front oriented west-east and instability could lead to training storms. But model guidance currently shows a rainfall focus anywhere from Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, or Arkansas on Day 4/Friday, so will hold off on any ERO risk area for hopefully better model convergence in future cycles. A couple of rounds of rain are forecast to move through the East Friday and Saturday with the fronts, and the cool westerly flow atop the Great Lakes could lead to lake effect rain showers for the weekend. Farther south, fronts meandering over southern parts of Florida in an unstable environment with above normal moisture could continue to allow for localized flash flood potential with urban areas most vulnerable. Marginal Risks are in place for South Florida and the Keys on Day 4/Friday and for South Florida on Day 5/Saturday (as the moisture focus pulls a bit away from the Keys) for this potential. The large trough covering the central and eastern U.S. for late week will promote well below average temperatures behind multiple cold fronts. Lows are forecast to be generally around 10-15 degrees below average for Friday through the weekend across much of the Plains, Midwest, and Great Lakes south into the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys. Lows reaching the 30s may cause concerns for frost for North Dakota to around Lake Superior, depending on wind and cloud cover. Highs could be even more anomalous on Friday across the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes -- around 15-20 degrees below normal. This could set a few daily records for low maximum temperatures, as highs only reach the 50s in some locations of the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes. Temperatures are forecast to gradually warm closer to normal into early next week as the colder air mass moves east and moderates as the upper trough lifts out. Still, temperatures may not quite get back to typical early September values. On the other hand, the Northwest can expect one more warm to hot day Friday before temperatures continue to gradually moderate there. In the West, the ample cloud cover and shower coverage will generally yield near to above average lows and near to below average highs. Tate Additional 3-7 Day Hazard information can be found on the WPC medium range hazards outlook chart at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/threats/threats.php WPC medium range 500mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation forecast (QPF), excessive rainfall outlook (ERO), winter weather outlook (WWO) probabilities, heat indices, and Key Messages can be accessed from: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ero https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw $$