Prognostic Meteorological Discussion
Issued by NWS
Issued by NWS
524 FXUS02 KWBC 120802 PMDEPD Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 302 AM EST Wed Nov 12 2025 Valid 12Z Sat Nov 15 2025 - 12Z Wed Nov 19 2025 ...Heavy rain likely in Southern California Saturday, causing possible flooding concerns... ...Overview... A southern stream upper low will move into southern California and vicinity over the weekend, bringing widespread rain that may cause flooding on Saturday. Precipitation including higher elevation snow is forecast to spread across much of the Intermountain West on Sunday. Upper ridging ahead of this system will lead to much warmer than average temperatures across the central to eastern U.S. over the weekend. Meanwhile in the northern stream, an upper trough will push a surface low/frontal system across the Great Lakes and Northeast over the weekend, leading to rain and some wintry precipitation. Into the workweek, rain is forecast to spread into the central and east-central U.S. as the initial upper low and surface frontal system lifts and then stalls. Yet another trough may move into the West early next week and bring additional precipitation chances across the region. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... The first synoptic feature of note is a southern stream closed upper low that recent models now show offshore at the start of the period Saturday, a slower trend. This low should track east into Sunday, and the ECMWF runs seem to show the most consistent middle ground solution compared to a slightly faster UKMET, farther south CMC, and farther north GFS runs. Into the workweek there is some spread in the track of the feature as it moves across the central U.S. along with a surface low. GFS runs (especially the 12Z and 18Z) were not favored with its low track, moving into the Lower Ohio Valley early Tuesday while the consensus of the rest of the guidance was back in the Mid-Mississippi Valley. However, the newer 00Z ECMWF seems to be a northern outlier with the surface low. In the broad sense, upper troughing moving through the north- central to northeastern U.S. this weekend into early next week shows model agreement, and the new 00Z model runs are agreeable with the surface low too. Ridging to its south causing warm temperatures also has good consensus. Farther west though, model spread increases significantly as troughing moves from the eastern Pacific and reaches the West, with uncertainty regarding if energy will pull south and develop another southern stream closed low early next week or stay phased. Interestingly the 12/18Z GFS looked similar to the EC-AIFS with favoring closed low development, while the 12Z ECMWF was similar to the AI-GFS with a quicker phased trough, as one sign of the notable model spread spread. In terms of the 00Z models, the GFS was a bit odd with digging energy southward farther west in the Pacific unlike any other model. CMC runs may be the best middle ground, showing upper low development but not complete separation of the streams. No notable model preference at this point for separated or phased troughing as we await better model convergence. The WPC forecast was based on a blend favoring the 12Z ECMWF with lesser proportions of the 18Z GFS and 12Z CMC early on, introducing and gradually increasing the proportion of ensemble means in the blend as the period progressed and model spread increased. ...Weather/Hazards Highlights... The southern stream cutoff low moving into southern California will provide dynamical support for ample precipitation, mostly rain, across southern California and into the Southwest on Saturday. Precipitable water values will likely be over the 95th percentile for this time of year, and some modest instability exists ahead of and underneath the deep upper low. A Slight Risk of excessive rainfall has been introduced for much of southern California in Saturday`s ERO with this slow-moving setup causing scattered flooding concerns, especially for sensitive areas like burn scars and urban areas. 2 to 5 year ARI exceedances may become common in desert areas that do not often see this much rain. By Sunday the upper low looks to lift northeast and lose the deeper moisture connection, but widespread light to moderate precipitation is likely across the Intermountain West. Precipitation should be mostly rain even into parts of the Mogollon Rim, but farther north into the higher elevations of the central Rockies snow is likely. Will hold off on any excessive rainfall areas on Day 5/Sunday due to the lessening moisture levels and the uncertainty in placement. Rain and possibly thunderstorms may spread east later Sunday and especially into Monday across the Plains and Mississippi Valley, and perhaps stalling in the south-central U.S. stretching into the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys on Tuesday but with greater uncertainty. Broad precipitation chances are likely across the northeastern quadrant of the CONUS over the weekend as a low pressure system moves through. Accumulating snow is likely in the Interior Northeast, especially in higher elevations, and some favored areas could see freezing rain. Periodic precipitation is likely across the Pacific Northwest and Intermountain West into the weekend, with higher elevation snow. By Sunday, precipitation chances should ramp up into northern California and farther inland as well, as broad upper troughing approaches. Troughing looks to move through the West early next week and could spread precipitation across the Intermountain West once again, though the details remain uncertain. Precipitation could be moderate or heavy at times. Temperatures are forecast to be warmer than average for much of the central and east-central U.S. on Saturday. 80s will be widespread across Texas, and highs reaching the upper 70s well into the Mid-Mississippi Valley and Ohio Valley will be 15 to 25 degrees above normal. Temperatures in the northern tier should cool in the northern U.S. Sunday and Monday, but the south-central to southeast U.S. looks to stay above average. Meanwhile the rounds of troughing in California to the Southwest will lead to below average highs there most days. Tate Additional 3-7 Day Hazard information can be found on the WPC medium range hazards outlook chart at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/threats/threats.php WPC medium range 500mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation forecast (QPF), excessive rainfall outlook (ERO), winter weather outlook (WWO) probabilities, heat indices, and Key Messages can be accessed from: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ero https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw $$