Prognostic Meteorological Discussion
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222 FXUS02 KWBC 110759 PMDEPD Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 259 AM EST Tue Nov 11 2025 Valid 12Z Fri Nov 14 2025 - 12Z Tue Nov 18 2025 ...Overview... A southern stream upper low will be traversing the Southwest and northern Mexico late this week into the weekend, bringing widespread precipitation to those areas. Rain and possible thunderstorms are forecast to move into the south-central U.S. by around Sunday and possibly the east-central U.S. into Monday as this feature lifts. Upper ridging ahead of this system will lead to much warmer than average temperatures across the central and then eastern U.S. into the weekend. Meanwhile in the northern stream, an upper trough will direct a surface low/frontal system across the Great Lakes and Northeast over the weekend, leading to rain and snow. Yet another trough moving across the northeastern Pacific into the West should bring precipitation chances to the Pacific Northwest and farther east into the Intermountain West early next week. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... Model agreement is much better than it has been in recent days on the complex overall pattern described above, but models still show differences that could be impactful to sensible weather. Models have converged on a solution favoring a southern stream upper low in the Southwest that should be closed and cut off from the northern stream. Not much recent guidance indicates a phased trough anymore, though there are a handful of ensemble members that still do. Within the broader agreement for a southern stream closed low, there are still some timing differences. Most AI based guidance (with the exception of the FourCastNet initialized by both the EC and GFS) have a slower track of the closed low compared to the dynamical models. So as a nod to the AI models, generally preferred the slower deterministic models for forecast creation today, favoring the 12Z ECMWF, 18Z GFS, 12Z CMC, and 18Z GEFS into the weekend period. The 12Z UKMET was a little faster and thus not preferred, as was the 12Z EC ensemble mean with members still eastward. The new 00Z models have generally slowed just a tad but are mostly similar to the previous cycle as the upper low starts to weaken and lift through the south-central Plains and northeastward early next week. In the northern stream, 12/18Z guidance showed some differences in the timing of the Great Lakes to Northeast trough, impacting its surface low positions (and QPF) Sunday-Monday. The 18Z GFS seemed particularly fast/farther east with the trough. Fortunately the incoming 00Z model suite seems to be converging on better agreement. South of this trough and east of the southern stream low, upper ridging is agreeable. Then for the West, troughing moving east over the northeast Pacific over the weekend shows good consistency, but there is some spread on whether this trough will split into northern and southern stream components into early next week. The 18Z GFS showed the possibility of an upper low pinching off in the southern stream near California, and the 00Z GFS and now the 00Z CMC are indicating this type of pattern as well. Will continue to monitor as the trough structure would affect sensible weather like precipitation in the West. As stated, the early part of the medium range period was based on a blend of the 18Z GFS/GEFS and 12Z ECMWF/CMC. Increased the proportion of ensemble means as the period progressed, reaching over half Day 7. ...Weather/Hazards Highlights... The tail end of an atmospheric river may impact southern California Friday, while the upper low developing provides dynamical support for ample precipitation, mostly rain, across the Southwest. Moisture (precipitable water) will likely be over the 95th percentile for this time of year, and some modest instability exists ahead of and underneath the deep upper low. Precipitation should initially be mostly rain even into parts of the Mogollon Rim until the upper low passes over. Marginal Risks of excessive rainfall have been delineated for parts of southern California into Arizona on Day 4/Friday into Day 5/Saturday for isolated flooding concerns with this system. Rain is likely to spread east into the Southern and Central Plains into the Lower and Middle Mississippi Valley by Sunday. Thunderstorms are also a good possibility given instability and Gulf moisture ahead of the upper low. There is more model spread by Monday, but rain generally could continue shifting east into the Ohio Valley stretching to the central Gulf Coast. Some lake effect precipitation could continue across the Northeast on Friday, but broader precipitation chances are likely to come into the northeastern quadrant of the CONUS over the weekend as a low pressure system moves through. Some snow is likely in the Interior Northeast, especially in higher elevations. Periodic precipitation is likely across the Pacific Northwest and Intermountain West into late week, with higher elevation snow. By Sunday, precipitation chances should ramp up into northern California and farther inland as well, as broad upper troughing approaches. Troughing looks to move through the West early next week and could spread precipitation across the Intermountain West once again, though the details remain uncertain. Temperatures are forecast to be warmer than average for mid- November across the central U.S. on Friday. The Northern Plains should see the most anomalous temperatures, as highs soar into the 60s and 70s, around 20-25 degrees above normal. 80s will be widespread across Texas with 70s in the rest of the Plains and into the Mid/Lower Mississippi Valley and Southeast. Temperatures should cool in the north-central U.S. over the weekend, but remain warm farther south and spreading eastward (though with lesser anomalies). By the workweek the upper low/trough will generally cool temperatures, though the Gulf Coast states could stay a few degrees above average. Meanwhile the rounds of troughing in California to the Southwest will lead to below average highs there most days. Tate Additional 3-7 Day Hazard information can be found on the WPC medium range hazards outlook chart at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/threats/threats.php WPC medium range 500mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation forecast (QPF), excessive rainfall outlook (ERO), winter weather outlook (WWO) probabilities, heat indices, and Key Messages can be accessed from: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ero https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw $$