


Prognostic Meteorological Discussion
Issued by NWS
Issued by NWS
135 FXUS02 KWBC 010749 PMDEPD Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 349 AM EDT Mon Sep 1 2025 Valid 12Z Thu Sep 04 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 08 2025 ...Overview... A deep upper low atop Lake Superior and vicinity as the medium range period begins Thursday will anchor troughing and resulting below normal temperatures across the Plains, Midwest, and Great Lakes/Ohio Valley. Rain is likely ahead of the trough axis, including some moderate to heavy rain totals possible in the central/northern Appalachians and interior Northeast later in the week. Meanwhile in the West, upper ridging is likely to continue and bring above normal temperatures to the Northwest before a likely cooling trend by the weekend. Some monsoonal moisture may increase late week into the weekend across the West. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... Model guidance remains in good agreement with the amplified synoptic scale pattern anchored by the ridge in the West and trough in the East, with relatively more spread in the details. The primary upper low`s position continues to converge in deterministic models and means, and models are also more agreeable now in dropping a shortwave south through the north-central U.S. on the western side of the low. The upper low center is forecast to drift northeast into the weekend and gradually lift troughing out of at least southern parts of the lower 48. However, there may be opportunities for reinforcing shortwaves into early next week. The ECMWF, especially the newer 00Z run, is particularly aggressive with a shortwave moving through the Midwest, so will continue to monitor this potential. Farther west, there is more spread with the general pattern behind the Intermountain West ridge, especially in the 12/18Z model cycle. Pacific troughing moves toward the West Coast at varying speeds, with the CMC the fastest and becoming out of phase and GFS runs slowest trying to cut off a low farther west. The ECMWF seemed generally most agreeable with the ensemble means. But 12/18Z deterministic models were also more aggressive with a shortwave moving through western Canada over the weekend and depressing the interior West upper ridge. Ensemble means, though of course averaged from the ensemble members and thus can be flatter, were not in favor of this shortwave feature and maintained more ridging. Fortunately it seems that the incoming 00Z model suite is becoming more agreeable with the trough placement in the Pacific, and also weaker with the Canadian shortwave so that it gets shunted around the northern side of the ridge. The WPC forecast was based on a blend of the 18Z GFS, 12Z ECMWF, and 12Z UKMET early in the forecast period. As the period progressed, lessened the proportion of deterministic guidance in favor of the ensemble means, with the means reaching half the model blend by Day 6 and more Day 7 amid increasing spread. ...Weather/Hazards Highlights... Convection is likely ahead of the cold front moving through the northeastern quadrant of the U.S. ahead of the upper low. The front slowing and tapping into some Atlantic moisture, possibly influenced by a coastal system, could lead to localized flash flooding concerns. For the Day 4/Thursday ERO, a Marginal Risk is delineated across the central to northern Appalachians and surrounding areas for isolated flooding concerns. While antecedent conditions are generally dry, heavy rain can sometimes quickly run off over dry soils. Orographic enhancement may play a role in producing heavier rain totals. Looped the central Appalachians into this issuance of the Marginal Risk since there should be similar if not more instability for convection there. The front pushing east into Friday will shift the convective potential east,and will show a Marginal Risk for the interior Northeast for the Day 5 ERO, before rain pulls away Saturday. Some rain may wrap around the Midwest/Upper Great Lakes late week as upper energy moves through, and the cool westerly flow atop the Great Lakes could lead to lake effect rain showers into the weekend. Monsoonal moisture is forecast to flow into the southwestern U.S. underneath the mean upper ridge, promoting scattered showers and thunderstorms. Moisture anomalies are highest into parts of California and Nevada on Thursday and gradually expanding eastward into late week. Marginal Risks are in place for eastern California into the central Great Basin and Southwest on Day 4/Thursday, and covering much of the Intermountain West farther north and east too on Day 5/Friday. There is low deterministic QPF over the northern areas despite favorable conditions, but even the QPF increases late week into the weekend. The track of an Eastern Pacific tropical system that is likely to form (see the NHC outlooks) could also affect the moisture levels in the West, though its path/intensity is quite uncertain. Rain chances are currently forecast to expand even farther into the Intermountain West by the weekend. Convection looks to make its way into the southern Plains at times near a wavy/lingering frontal boundary, but with plenty of spread in the details. Meanwhile, frontal boundaries are forecast to meander over Florida in an unstable environment with above normal moisture, allowing for localized flash flood potential with urban areas most vulnerable. Most model guidance then limits potential for heavy rainfall to south of I-4 into Day 4/Thursday as the front approaches from the west. South Florida in particular could see some lingering moisture astride the wavy frontal boundary late this week into the weekend which would support additional diurnal convection. Thus show a Marginal Risk in the Day 4 ERO across central to southern Florida and a Marginal limited to South Florida on Day 5/Friday. The large trough covering the central and eastern U.S. for the latter part of this week will promote well below average temperatures behind multiple cold fronts. Lows are forecast to be generally around 10-15 degrees below average for Thursday through the weekend across much of the Plains, Midwest, and Great Lakes south into the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys. Lows reaching the 30s may cause concerns for frost around Lake Superior, depending on wind and cloud cover. Highs could be even more anomalous on Thursday and Friday across the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes, around 15-25 degrees below normal. This could set daily records for low maximum temperatures, as highs only reach the 50s in some locations of the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes, with even some possible highs in the 40s in the U.P. of Michigan. Temperatures are forecast to gradually warm closer to normal into early next week as the airmass moves east and moderates as the upper trough lifts. On the other hand, the West can expect warm to hot conditions under the upper ridge continuing into late week. Temperatures will be most anomalous in the Northwest, with upper 90s and possibly reaching 100F east of the Cascades. Record high minimum and maximum temperatures are possible but may be more extensive on Wednesday (now in the short range). HeatRisk shows Major to locally Extreme conditions in the northern Great Basin through Thursday, with temperatures decreasing after that. Tate Additional 3-7 Day Hazard information can be found on the WPC medium range hazards outlook chart at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/threats/threats.php WPC medium range 500mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation forecast (QPF), excessive rainfall outlook (ERO), winter weather outlook (WWO) probabilities, heat indices, and Key Messages can be accessed from: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ero https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw $$