Area Forecast Discussion
Issued by NWS Hastings, NE

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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE
1114 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009

.AVIATION...06Z TAF. MAIN CONCERN FOR THE TAF PERIOD IS THE
POTENTIAL FOR THE ARRIVAL OF STRATUS JUST AFTER DAYBREAK ON
SATURDAY. THE LEADING EDGE OF THE STRATUS CLOUDS IS LOCATED ACROSS
SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS ATTM AND WITH INCREASING SOUTHERLY FLOW
OVERNIGHT AND SATURDAY...THE LOW CLOUDS WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD. FOR
NOW HAVE KEPT CEILINGS IN THE MVFR RANGE FOR A FEW HOURS AND THEN
SCATTERED THE CLOUDS IN THE AFTERNOON. IN A TIGHTENING SURFACE
GRADIENT...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE ON SATURDAY WITH GUSTS
AROUND 25KTS POSSIBLE.

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.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1004 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009/

UPDATE...MAIN UPDATE THIS EVENING WAS TO INSERT MENTION OF PATCHY
FOG INTO PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL KS MAINLY EAST OF HIGHWAY 281.
MOST FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR FOG DEVELOPMENT SHOULD REMAIN JUST
TO THE SOUTH/EAST OF THE CWA WHERE WEAK MOISTURE ADVECTION IS
ENHANCED...BUT FELT THAT PATCHY MENTION WAS STILL WARRANTED AS
LIGHT SOUTHERLY RETURN FLOW AROUND THE RIDGE AXIS SHOULD REMAIN
WEAKEST HERE AS WELL. OTHERWISE MADE ONLY SOME MINOR TWEAKS TO
TEMPS/DEWPOINTS/SKY COVER.

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 338 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009/

SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF
WEATHER IN THIS PERIOD. SURFACE RIDGE IS MOVING ACROSS THE AREA THIS
AFTERNOON WITH SOUTHERLY FLOW RETURNING. SURFACE TROUGH WILL DEVELOP
AND STRENGTHEN ACROSS THE WESTERN HIGH PLAINS TONIGHT AND
SATURDAY. THIS WILL INCREASE THE PRESSURE GRADIENT AND SO WILL THE
WINDS. EXPECT A BREEZY DAY ON SATURDAY WITH SOUTH WINDS OF 15 TO
25 MPH. LITTLE IN THE WAY OF MOISTURE IN PLACE NOW SO CLEAR SKIES
WILL PREVAIL INTO SATURDAY. AS SOUTHERLY FLOW CONTINUES INTO
SATURDAY NIGHT...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL INCREASE AND WILL BRING
LOW CLOUDS AND SOME PATCHY FOG/DRIZZLE TO THE AREA BY SUNRISE
SUNDAY.

LONG TERM...12Z SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS
FORECAST IS ON EARLY NEXT WEEK SYSTEM...WHICH LOOKS TO BE A PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER MAKER FOR THE AREA DURING THE MONDAY/TUESDAY
TIMEFRAME.

STARTING OUT SUNDAY MORNING...WILL BE DEALING WITH LOW CLOUDS...FOG
AND DRIZZLE ACROSS THE CWA. A WEAK SURFACE FRONT WILL BE BISECTING
THE CWA FROM NORTH TO SOUTH...WITH SOUTHERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW AHEAD OF
THE BOUNDARY KEEPING RICH LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IN PLACE. SOUNDINGS
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FOG AND DRIZZLE...WITH SATURATED LOW LEVELS
BENEATH A DRY PROFILE ALOFT...AND HENCE PREFER THE INHERITED DRIZZLE
MENTION VERSUS SHOWERS. FORCING AHEAD OF AN OPEN UPPER WAVE ACTING
ON THE MOIST LOW LEVELS SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO SQUEEZE OUT SOME
DRIZZLE ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OR SO OF THE CWA SUNDAY
MORNING...POSSIBLY LINGERING INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS IN THE FAR
SOUTHEAST. TEMPERATURES ARE TRICKY ON SUNDAY. THE SURFACE BOUNDARY
WASHES OUT AND A FAIRLY WARM AIRMASS IS IN PLACE /H85 TEMPS
GENERALLY +3-5C/...BUT LOW CLOUDS WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR ESPECIALLY
IN THE EAST. WILL AIM HIGHS IN THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S...BUT THIS
COULD EASILY TILT EITHER WAY BASED ON CLEARING TRENDS.

SHOULD CATCH A BREAK BETWEEN SYSTEMS SUNDAY NIGHT...BEFORE A MUCH
STRONGER UPPER LOW BEGINS TO IMPACT THE AREA ON MONDAY. MODELS
/EXCLUDING THE GFS/ HAVE BEGUN TO COME INTO MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT ON
THIS EARLY WEEK SYSTEM...WITH THE TREND TOWARD A MUCH
DEEPER/STRONGER/SLOWER AND MORE IMPACTFUL SYSTEM FOR THE AREA. THE
LAST COUPLE RUNS OF BOTH THE ECMWF AND CMC GEM HAVE SHOWN THIS
SOLUTION...AND THE NAM THROUGH 84 HOURS IS ALSO CARVING OUT A DEEPER
LOW. THE GFS REMAINS THE OUTLIER IN KEEPING A MUCH MORE NORTHERN AND
PROGRESSIVE TRACK THROUGH THE PLAINS. HAVE TRENDED THE FORECAST
TOWARD THE ECMWF/GEM SOLUTION WHICH HAS MUCH MORE SUPPORT THAN THE
GFS AT THIS POINT...SEEMS MORE REALISTIC GIVEN THE UPPER JET
ENERGY DIGGING DOWN THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM...AND IS THE
PREFERRED HPC SOLUTION. FOLLOWING THIS SOLUTION...AN UPPER LOW
WILL DIG THROUGH THE CENTRAL ROCKIES...CLOSING OFF OVER NORTHWEST
KS BY MONDAY EVENING...THEN TRACKING EITHER EAST OR NORTHEAST OVER
NORTHERN KS OR SOUTHERN NE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT
BEFORE PUSHING INTO IA/MO BY WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER...THE EXACT TRACK
IT TAKES ACROSS KS/NE AND THE TIMING OF THE LOW/S MOVEMENT IS
STILL HIGHLY UNCERTAIN AND WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE AREA/S
WEATHER DURING THE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT TIMEFRAME.
FOR EXAMPLE...THE 20/12Z ECMWF SLOWED THE PROGRESSION OF THE
SYSTEM DOWN BY NEARLY 12 HOURS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS 20/00Z
RUN...WHICH OBVIOUSLY SLOWS DOWN THE INTRUSION OF COLDER AIR INTO
THE CWA ON THE BACKSIDE AND RESULTANT CHANGEOVER TO SNOW. IT WAS
LOOKING LIKE THIS CHANGEOVER WOULD OCCUR MONDAY NIGHT OVER MOST OF
THE CWA...BUT THE SLOWER 12Z ECMWF WOULD LIKELY DELAY IT UNTIL
TUESDAY FOR MOST IF NOT ALL AREAS. BY THAT TIME HOW MUCH COLD AIR
WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE SYSTEM TO WORK WITH COMES INTO QUESTION
SINCE THE SYSTEM IS NO LONGER DEEPENING...THEREBY SQUELCHING THE
DYNAMIC COOLING...AND THE TAP OF COLDER AIR FROM THE NORTH BEGINS
TO GET CUT OFF DUE TO THE CLOSED NATURE OF THE LOW. ON THE OTHER
HAND...THE GEM IS STILL QUITE AGGRESSIVE WITH THE COLD AIR SURGE
MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY...WHICH WOULD MEAN A SIGNIFICANT SNOW
STORM FOR THE AREA. NEEDLESS TO SAY...A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY LOOMS
WITH THIS SYSTEM. IT DOES LOOK ACTIVE/WET LATE MONDAY INTO
TUESDAY...MAYBE TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THE DETAILS INCLUDING PRECIP
TYPE AND AMOUNT ARE STILL QUITE UNCERTAIN. MAIN CHANGES TO THE
FORECAST WERE TO INSERT/INCREASE POPS MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY
NIGHT...COOL DAYTIME TEMPERATURES DURING THIS TIME...AND INTRODUCE
A RAIN/SNOW MIX. WINDS WILL BE PRETTY STRONG ON THE BACKSIDE OF
THE SYSTEM MONDAY NIGHT/TUESDAY...SO DEPENDING ON THE PRECIP PHASE
THIS COULD CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS. WILL HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON
THIS SYSTEM THROUGH THE WEEKEND...WITH MANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE
FORECAST LIKELY YET TO COME.

FORTUNATELY...THIS SYSTEM PUSHES EAST PRIOR TO THE THANKSGIVING DAY
HOLIDAY AND THE BIG TRAVEL DAY ON WEDNESDAY. A NORTH/NORTHWEST FLOW
WILL RETURN ON WEDNESDAY IN BETWEEN THE DEPARTING SYSTEM AND UPPER
RIDGING OVER THE WESTERN CONUS. DRY CONDITIONS THEN PREVAIL
WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AS THE WESTERN UPPER RIDGE GRADUALLY
PROPAGATES EAST. MODELS HAVE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH A POSSIBLE
TRAILING WAVE WEDNESDAY...WHICH COULD BRING IN A REINFORCING SHOT OF
COLDER AIR...DELAYING THE WARM-UP...BUT DOESN/T LOOK TO BRING ANY
PRECIP WITH IT. WILL SEE MODERATING TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY THROUGH
FRIDAY AS HIGHS CLIMB BACK INTO THE 50S BY WEEK/S END...MAKING FOR A
NICE HOLIDAY.

&&

.GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...NONE.
KS...NONE.

&&

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