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Issued by NWS Albany, NY
Issued by NWS Albany, NY
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847 FXUS61 KALY 221929 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION National Weather Service Albany NY 229 PM EST Sat Nov 22 2025 .SYNOPSIS... Turning chilly tonight as skies clear before a moisture starved clipper tracks overhead tomorrow. Expecting isolated to scattered valley rain and higher elevation snow showers before lake effect and upslope snow showers develop overnight. We turn dry for Monday into Monday night but trend milder Tuesday into Wednesday as a system develops near the Great Lakes increasing chances for rain showers. && .SHORT TERM /THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/... Key Messages: - There is a 30 to 70% chance for at least a half of snow in the southern Greens, southern/western Adirondacks and northern Catskills tomorrow into tomorrow night with a 40-50% chance for more than 2 inches in northern Herkimer County. Discussion: Our southern tracking disturbance from this morning has exited well out to sea with northwest flow in the wake of the trough axis supporting a decent November afternoon with seasonable temperatures in the low to mid 40s under diurnally driven stratocu. Skies trend clearer as we drop below the convective temperatures this evening resulting in clearing skies as weak high pressure builds overhead. With northwest flow ushering in a much drier air mass through tonight and dew points remaining in the 20s, favorable radiational cooling will support a chilly night tonight. While another weak clipper will be approaching from Ontario, moisture is lacking and guidance shows only upper level moisture/cirrus clouds spilling overtop the weak shortwave ridging into the western/southern Adirondacks and Upper Hudson Valley through 09 UTC. Mainly clear skies look to persist south of I-90. Latest NBM has trended low temperatures tonight downwards slightly compared to its previous run but still expecting lows to fall into the low to mid 20s. Clouds gradually increase and lower tomorrow morning before increased warm air/moisture advection ahead of the clipper combined with some upslope enhancements supporting chance to likely POPs in the southern/western Adirondacks and Mohawk Valley by 15 - 18 UTC with chance POPs spreading into the Upper Hudson Valley and western New England/Taconics into the afternoon. Given chilly temperatures lingering to the morning plus wet- bulbing cooling processes as precip saturates the dry column, p-type is favored to be snow. Overall intensity should be light but given upslope enhancements in the southern Adirondacks and elevations at and above 1000ft in the Taconics/southern VT, expecting a few tenths of an inch up to 2 inches (NBM shows less than 10% chance for snowfall through 7PM Sunday to exceed 2"). Given the weak forcing and lack of moisture, shower coverage looks to remain isolated to scattered per the latest high res guidance with the most persistent snow showers in the southern Greens and southern Adirondacks given upsloping effects. Only expecting some light showers (mainly rain) from midday into the early afternoon for valley areas mainly from the Greater Capital District northward along the leading edge of the strongest warm air/moisture advection. The mid-Hudson Valley and NW CT looks to remain mainly dry. Between the increasing clouds and wet-bulbing cooling effects from rain/snow showers, cooler temperatures tomorrow with at least a 70% chance that highs fall under 40 degrees (30% chance in the mid-Hudson Valley). The clipper`s cold front and trough axis swing through by 21 - 00 UTC tomorrow. With increasing height falls ahead of the trough resulting in a deepening shortwave, there is increasing confidence in strong enough northwest flow and cold air advection developing in its wake to elicit a lake effect response for Sunday evening/night. There are even signs of a brief multi-lake connection between the Georgian Bay and Lake Ontario developing tomorrow evening. We therefore maintained likely POPs in the Adirondacks and Mohawk Valley with chance POPs remaining in the Taconics/southern Greens/western MA 00 - 06 UTC Monday and even expanded the chance POPs footprint to include the Capital District and Upper Hudson Valley where lake bands could reach. Marginal temperatures in the mid 30s looks to support mainly rain or rain/snow mix in valley areas but should a stronger lake band develop, a brief period of mainly snow cannot be ruled out tomorrow evening. Even still, accumulations look unlikely as probabilities for even just a tenth of an inch of snow limited to 20% chance for just the Upper Hudson Valley. On the other hand, there is a 30 to 60% chance for at least an additional half inch of snow in the aforementioned hill town and higher terrain areas. Winds veer more to the northwest after Midnight, reducing the lake effect response and snow showers decrease overnight. High pressure continues to build north and eastward on Monday with the lowering subsidence inversion putting an end to the lake effect snow showers. However, continued northwest flow maintains enough of a moisture fetch off Lake Ontario that a stubborn stratocu deck looks to linger into Monday morning. Shortwave ridging builds in enough by Monday afternoon to scour out trapped mid-level moisture and skies trend sunnier. The pressure gradient tightens enough ahead of the incoming high that mixing deepens as skies clear and winds become a bit breezy Monday afternoon. Otherwise, Monday trends milder with daytime highs rebounding into the low to mid 40s (mid to upper 30s in the hill towns/higher terrain) with even near 50 in the mid- Hudson Valley. We remain dry into Monday night as high pressure builds overhead. && .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... Key Messages: - Moderate to high confidence for a warming trend into Wednesday with at least a 70 to 90% chance for high temperatures Wednesday to exceed 50 degrees through most of eastern NY and western New England. Medium to high confidence for a few periods of mainly rain showers Tuesday into Wednesday. - Increasing confidence for a lake effect snow event Thursday afternoon through Friday night with medium confidence for the western Mohawk Valley and southern/western Adirondacks to experience the most impacts. Uncertainty remains on exact placement of lake effect bands, duration and intensity. Discussion: While there remain a few disturbances to monitor heading in Thanksgiving week and the busiest travel days of the year, confidence is increasing that mild enough temperatures Tuesday into especially Wednesday will support mainly rain as the precipitation type. Latest ensemble cluster guidance shows moderate confidence in a weak shortwave tracking within broad southwest flow Tuesday into Tuesday night supporting a period of showers with confidence increasing that incoming showers hold off until Tuesday afternoon. After this initial period of showers, ensemble cluster again are in moderate agreement in a more potent trough developing over the Great Lakes into Ontario and turning into a closed low Wednesday into Wednesday night. This looks to result in enhanced southwest flow into the Northeast that likely leads to a period of above normal temperatures. In fact, there is a 70 to 90% chance for temperatures to exceed 50 degrees through most of eastern NY and western New England on Wednesday. Chances for showers increase Wednesday afternoon into Wednesday night as moisture and forcing ahead of the closed low strengthens but again there is moderate to high confidence that the warm air mass will support plain rain. Rain amounts are expected to be rather light with only a 20% chance that 24 hour rain amounts from 7AM Wed to 7AM Thurs exceed 0.50". As the system`s cold front pushes through Wednesday night into early Thursday (Thanksgiving), temperatures quickly trend colder as strong westerly flow ushers in a much colder air mass into the Northeast. In addition, winds look to become gusty on Thursday with a 50 to 70% chance that 24 hour wind gust maximum values exceed 30mph between 1AM Thurs and 1AM Fri. As the parent closed low tracks into the Northeast and strong cold air advection continues over the still warm Lake Erie and Ontario waters Thursday afternoon through Friday night, there is growing confidence for a lake effect snow event to develop. With temperatures trending colder both days (but remaining seasonable for late November) and given initial model guidance prediction on wind direction and potential for mult-lake connection enhancements, confidence is increasing that the western Mohawk Valley and the southern/western Adirondacks will experience the most impacts but again, snow amounts and impacts will be dependent on lake band placement, duration, and intensity. Latest probabilistic guidance shows a 30 to 70% chance for at least 3 inches of snow in this region during the 48 hour period from 7PM Wed to 7PM Fri with even a 30 to 50% chance for at least 6 inches in the western Adirondacks. In addition, westerly flow looks to also support upslope snow in the southern Greens during this period with a 10 to 15% chance for at least 2 inches of snow. Those planning to travel in these areas during the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday into the early part of the weekend should keep a close eye on the forecast for trends and snow forecast information. && .AVIATION /19Z SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... Through 18z Sunday...VFR conditions are expected to prevail through the 24 hour TAF period. BKN cigs around 4000-5000 ft AGL will gradually dissipate later this afternoon as high pressure builds in from the west. High/mid level clouds will increase towards Sunday morning ahead of a disturbance approaching from the Great Lakes. Some snow showers may occur Sunday afternoon, but mainly after 18z. Will just mention PROB30 of -SHSN from 17z-18z at KGFL. Winds will be northwest around 7-11 kt with gusts up to 20 kt at KALB/KPSF through this afternoon. Winds will gradually diminish this evening. Outlook... Sunday Night: Moderate Operational Impact. Chance of SHRA. Monday: No Operational Impact. NO SIG WX. Monday Night: No Operational Impact. NO SIG WX. Tuesday: Moderate Operational Impact. Chance of RA. Tuesday Night: High Operational Impact. Likely RA. Wednesday: Moderate Operational Impact. Chance of RA. Wednesday Night: Moderate Operational Impact. Chance of RA. Thanksgiving Day: Low Operational Impact. Breezy. NO SIG WX. && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...None. NY...None. MA...None. VT...None. && $$ SYNOPSIS...31 SHORT TERM...31 LONG TERM...31 AVIATION...07