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FXUS63 KLOT 302130

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL
330 PM CST Thu Nov 30 2023

Issued at 316 PM CST Thu Nov 30 2023

Through Friday night...

Key Messages:

- A widespread soaking cold rain is expected (for most) late
  tonight through Friday morning. Rainfall amounts of 0.5" up to
  an inch are forecast.

- Conditions continue to favor the rain to mix with, or even
  change over to a period of wet snow for period Friday morning
  across interior sections of far northern Illinois, primarily
  near/west of the Fox Valley.

- There remains a chance (currently 40%) of some slushy wet snow
  accums up to a inch or so (mainly on non paved surfaces) within
  the narrow zone generally along and north of a Dixon to McHenry
  line. Closer to the WI border, there remains a low (~20%) chance
  of amounts around 2" if the wet snow comes down at a heavy
  enough rate to overcome marginal temps and mild ground conditions.

- Periods of light precipitation, primarily in the form of light
  rain and drizzle will persist through Friday afternoon (60-70%
  probs), with some wet snow probably (50-60%) continuing to mix
  in over portions of far northern Illinois.

- Precipitation will reinvigorate (thought with continued
  primarily light rates) Friday evening with 80-90% probabilities
  near and north of the Kankakee River. A similar zone of far
  northern Illinois to Friday morning will likely (>60% chance)
  have at least a mix with wet snow, but no additional accumulation
  is forecast.



A compact and strong Pacific impulse (and its associated surface
low) currently noted in the water vapor imagery over the southern
High Plains will eject east- northeastward into the lower Great
Lakes Region into Friday. As it does so, the flow aloft will
become strongly diffluent as a loosely coupled upper-jet structure
sets up across the Lower Great Lakes region. This in combination
with a northward influx of unseasonably deep Gulf Moisture (PWATs
at or above 3/4") will set the stage for a widespread
precipitation event across the area late tonight into Friday
morning. 12z forecast guidance remained in good agreement with the
northern periphery of the system`s expansive precip shield
reaching into southern Wisconsin. As a result, the entire CWA
remains on track to see precipitation from this system (peak PoPs
of 100% pre-dawn Friday through Friday AM). Total liquid
equivalent amounts of a half to as much as an inch are expected.

Much of the precipitation tonight into Friday will be in the form
of a cold rain, especially along and south of a Waukegan to Peru
line. However, chances increase with northward extent towards the
WI state line (and inland from Lake Michigan) that the column
will dynamically cool enough into Friday morning to support a
change over to a period of wet snow, thanks to a strengthening
low-mid level f-gen circulation in addition to the strong large
scale ascent. The 12z forecast guidance did generally trend a bit
warmer with temperatures and dew points during the highest
precipitation rates. In addition, pavement temps will likely have
a longer lag to cool off tonight following the over- performing
high temps this afternoon. Given the marginal thermal set-up and
mild ground conditions, it`s uncertain if snow rates (where p-type
does go over all snow) will be heavy enough to result in any
pavement accums.

The above being said, some accumulations up to an inch remain
possible (up to ~40% chance), especially for areas north of a
Dixon to McHenry line. Probabilities for accumulations of 2" (or
just upwards of 2") came down to only 15-20% over the far northwest
CWA (roughly north and west of Rockford). All in all, at this
point it appears that travel impacts will be limited due to
marginal surface temperatures, which would favor most of the wet
accumulations (where slushy accums occur) on non-paved and
elevated surfaces. We will continue to message this possibility in
and around the Rockford area.

Heavier rain rates and any accumulating wet snow will abate by
mid-day. Thereafter, it appears we will continue to see waves of
drizzle or light rain at times through the afternoon as broad
ascent continues through a deep saturated layer from the low
stratus base up to about 600 mb. Looking at a pretty murky
afternoon as a result, with any persistent drizzle capable of
knocking visibility down into the 1-2 mile range. In addition, as
alluded to in the key messages section, sufficient saturation of
the DGZ may remain vs. farther southeast to keep some wet snow
mixed in over parts of the far NW CWA, including Rockford. High
temperatures will range from the upper 30s over interior far
northern Illinois to the lower-mid 40s for the rest of the area.

In the wake of tonight/Friday`s system, a weak secondary upper-
level wave will cross the forecast area Friday evening and
overnight as the weakening low-level low pressure drifts from near
STL to near DTW Friday afternoon through Friday night. Modest
low-level isentropic ascent ahead of the highly NW-tilted low with
height will support a re-invigoration of a broad shield of light
precip across much of the CWA. Thermal profiles support primarily
all rain except for areas northwest of a Dixon to McHenry line
(roughly the 850 hPa low track) where snow should mix with and
possibly change over from rain. Surface temps look to be marginal
for any notable accumulations, but a few tenths of an inch cannot
be completely ruled out on grassy surfaces (confidence was too
low for any formal accums in the grids).

The main change with this afternoon`s forecast issuance for the
Friday evening/night period was to increase PoPs up to 80-90% for
areas near and north of the Kankakee River based off ensemble
PoPs jumping into that range. The steady light precip will wind
down after midnight Friday night. Low temps will be in the mid-
upper 30s for most of the area, except locally low 30s far NW and
around 40 near/along the Chicago shore.



Issued at 219 PM CST Thu Nov 30 2023

Saturday through Thursday...

Key Messages:

* Multiple chances for rain and rain/snow mix through Tuesday night

* Seasonal temperatures through mid week, but the potential for
  anomalously warm temperatures build late in the week

Mostly cloudy skies are expected on Saturday with temperatures in
the 40s. Mid-level subsidence and cold air advection will likely
keep the area drier as the previous short wave moves east. However,
the 500 mb long wave trough over the western Texas panhandle is
projected to move northeastward toward the Great Lakes through the
day on Sunday. Overnight low temperatures Saturday into Sunday are
expected to be above freezing for most of the region, but best
chances for subfreezing temperatures at the surface is projected
northwest of a Dixon to Woodstock line. Precipitation is likely (55%-
65%) to be a cold rain, with a wet snow for northwest Illinois
Sunday morning, through Sunday evening. A secondary shortwave
traversing around the long wave keeps confidence low on the exact
timing of precip ending and light rain/drizzle could linger into the
early part of Monday morning. Northwest flow behind the trough will
provide additional cold air advection for colder, drier conditions
Monday morning.

Yet another upper level trough is expected to drop down out of
Saskatchewan on Tuesday and deepen as it approaches Lake Michigan
providing another chance for rain or rain/snow mix. There is still a
lot of uncertainty with the timing and speed of the system, but it
looked like the blend was going too low with PoPs in comparison to
the suite of ensemble models. So PoPs were nudged upwards to have a
chance (30% to 40%) be displayed in the forecast. Lastly, the Euro
has a much broader negative tilt to the upper level trough, while
the GFS has a more meridional dip to it with a tighter gradient.
Winds were maintained with gusts around 20 mph, but if models trend
toward the GFS it is possible that the winds are underdone.

An upper level ridge over the intermountain west will grow and
strengthen as it drifts eastward over the Northern Plains.
Temperatures will be around seasonal normals for much of the week.
However as the ridge drifts east, higher pressure will grow and
there is a signal for the potential for temperatures to warm to
almost 10 degrees above normal for the end of the week.



For the 18Z TAFs...

The primary aviation weather concerns through the 18Z TAF period
are as follows:

* Rain showers late tonight into tomorrow morning, with more light
  rain or drizzle to follow in the afternoon. Associated vsby

* MVFR cigs this evening with IFR expected late tonight and

* At RFD, snow showers and a rain/snow mix expected tonight into

A few scattered showers are expected overnight before widespread
rain moves in from the south not long before daybreak. A steady,
soaking rain is expected to pull vsbys down to MVFR with periods
of IFR for the better part of the event. The main swath of rain
will lift off to the northeast during the late morning with
additional light rain or drizzle possible during the afternoon.
Should the drizzle play out, vsbys could hold at IFR but should
otherwise improve. At RFD, primarily snow is expected through mid-
morning or so before a transition to rain or a rain-snow mix for
the late morning.

Additionally, MVFR cigs will move overhead late tonight and are
expected to drop to IFR as the widespread rain pushes in during
the predawn hours. IFR cigs are forecast for the remainder of the
period with LIFR possible in the afternoon with the drizzle

Meanwhile, gusty SW winds will continue through the bulk of the
afternoon before subsiding late this afternoon. Winds will turn NW
around mid-evening then go east of north late this evening. East
or NE winds near or under 10 kt will then continue through the



LM...Small Craft Advisory...IL and IN nearshore waters until 4 PM

     Small Craft Advisory...Winthrop Harbor to Wilmette Harbor IL...4
     AM Friday to 10 PM Friday.



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