Area Forecast Discussion
Issued by NWS Los Angeles, CA
Issued by NWS Los Angeles, CA
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513 FXUS66 KLOX 081136 AFDLOX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 336 AM PST Fri Nov 8 2024 .SYNOPSIS...08/330 AM. Offshore flow in place the last several days will break down today and allow onshore flow to develop through Saturday. High pressure aloft will bring warmer temperatures through Saturday, then a cooling trend should develop. Gusty northerly winds and a chance of rain are on tap for early next week a weak weather system moves over the region. Offshore flow should establish for the middle portion of next week and bring some warming. && .SHORT TERM (TDY-SUN)...08/330 AM. The latest satellite imagery show clear skies over the region this morning as an upper-level ridge sitting near about 200 miles southwest of Point Conception builds into the state early this morning. A weak offshore flow pattern remains in place across the region this morning, but today looks to be the last offshore day for the stretch. Red Flag Warnings remain in place across the mountain areas this morning, but these warnings will likely be allowed to expire later today as the offshore winds wane. With less wind and the ridge building in aloft, the dry air mass will stagnate with less mixing, and air mass will warm for today. Today should be the warmest day of the week for the northern areas, but a warming trend will continue into Saturday across the Southland. Daytime temperatures maxing out in the 70s to lower 80s will be common up north today, spreading south into the Southland on Saturday. A cold air mass in place across the interior and in some wind-sheltered areas over the last several days will modify as the ridge builds in. It will frigid start to the day this morning with freeze warnings in effect until 9 am across the San Luis Obispo County Interior Valleys, and the Cuyama and Antelope Valley. Several sites in the interior valleys have dipped into the upper 20s and 30s this morning. The warming trend will filter in today, with the interior portions warming to near normal by Saturday then above on Sunday. Smoke impacts from the Mountain Fire will likely remain in the forecast for the near-term. Experimental HRRR and high-resolution multi-model ensembles suggest the smoke concentration remaining an issue for today, shifting to a more inland trajectory today. It is not surprising to see South Coast AQMD and Ventura County APCD highlighting the eastern Ventura County and western Los Angeles County for air quality alerts due to smoke impacts. As firefighting personnel heroically get a better handle on the Mountain Fire, smoke impacts could get better sooner and improve the air quality for particulate matter. The forecast ensembles have really good agreement on 500 mb heights falling through the weekend and into Tuesday as series of weak weather systems drop into the region. A cooling trend will likely develop across the coastal and valley to start the week, but there are some questions on how much cooling will filter into the interior valleys as the developing onshore flow pattern downslopes into these areas. EPS ensemble members seems to inhibit the cooling from taking place, but it does not make much sense given the weak GEFS KLAX-KDAG surface gradients and deterministic NAM and GFS surface pressure gradients. For now, NBM values will left in the forecast in hopes some clarity arrives on this issue as EPS ensemble means could be picking up on weak shortwave ridging as the pattern amplifies ahead of the broader stronger troughing taking place offshore. .LONG TERM (MON-THU)...08/330 AM. The latest forecast ensembles are trending slightly wetter with the second system of the series to affect the region between Veterans Day and Tuesday. Confidence remains high for cooler temperatures and gusty northerly winds across the area, especially through the Interstate 5 Corridor and across southern Santa Barbara County, but EPS precipitable water value means climb across the region on Veterans Day. The forecast goes with NBM values for PoPs, which is probably the best approach for the situation, but the forecast ensembles do favor the northern areas and the northern slopes of the mountains. EPS ensemble members indicate almost all perturbations for KSDB with QPF, and more solutions than the several runs across the area. As stated previously, northerly winds will likely be the main story for the typical wind prone areas as rain amounts will be light. Any snowfall will likely be confined to the ridgetops or the resort-level with this system, but amounts should fall between a dusting an an inch at best up at this level. Offshore flow will likely develop in the wake of the system on Wednesday. While Sundowner winds across southern Santa Barbara County seems the most likely, Santa Lucia and Santa Ana winds cannot be ruled out between Tuesday night and Thursday. For the current time, the forecast ensembles advertise a much weaker Santa Ana wind event as EPS members suggest sub-advisory wind gust means for KCMA and K3A6. For all indications at this time, any advisory level winds will likely remain confined to the mountains between Wednesday and Thursday. A warming and drying trend will likely develop during this period and marginal critical fire weather conditions could develop as the air mass compressionally heats and dries. Lurking out in the extended period is a decent chance of rain sometime late next week or into following week. Just about every solution indicates rain in the EPS and CMC ensemble members at this point, but the issue is the timing in the period. GEFS members offer up a mix of solutions at this time, but the operational ECMWF and GFS solutions fall inline with this idea. For now, stay tuned as this could be the first significant storm of fall season. && .AVIATION...08/1120Z. Around 1030Z, there was no marine layer depth at KLAX. High confidence in the current forecast. VFR conditions are expected through the period. There is a low chance of moderate low-level wind shear and turbulence at Los Angeles County valley terminals through 16Z. KLAX...VFR conditions are expected through the period. Any easterly winds should remain less than 7 knots. There is a low chance of VLIFR conditions after 10Z Saturday. KBUR...VFR conditions are expected through the period. No wind impacts are expected this time. && .MARINE...08/300 AM. For the Outer Waters, wind and seas are expected to remain under SCA criteria levels through Saturday morning. There is a 30-40% chance for SCA level winds to return Saturday afternoon through Sunday for the southern outer waters (PZZ676) especially from the Channel Islands out to San Nicolas Island. For the Inner Waters along the Central Coast, wind and seas are expected to remain under SCA criteria levels through Sunday. For the Santa Barbara Channel, expecting below SCA level conditions through this morning. There is a 20-30% chance for SCA level winds this afternoon, and again during the afternoon/evening hours Saturday and Sunday, favoring western portions. For the Southern Inner Waters, conditions are expected to be below SCA levels through Sunday night. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...Freeze Warning in effect until 9 AM PST this morning for zones 38-343-344-383. (See LAXNPWLOX). Red Flag Warning in effect until 11 AM PST this morning for zones 375>380. (See LAXRFWLOX). PZ...NONE. && $$ PUBLIC...Hall AVIATION...Hall MARINE...Phillips/Price SYNOPSIS...Hall weather.gov/losangeles Experimental Graphical Hazardous Weather Outlook at: https://www.weather.gov/erh/ghwo?wfo=lox