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FXUS63 KARX 220520
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI
1120 PM CST FRI NOV 21 2014

.SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY)
ISSUED AT 345 PM CST FRI NOV 21 2014

SPENT MOST OF THE FORECAST TIME TRYING TO GET THE CORRECT IMPACT
MESSAGING OUT FOR THIS PERIOD WITH ICING POTENTIAL MOVING IN AND
CONCERNS A BIT HIGHER IN WI WITH MANY TRAVELING FOR DEER HUNTING
WEEKEND.

WATER VAPOR CLEARLY SHOWING SHORTWAVE TROUGH ENERGY FOR TONIGHT
OVER NEB-KS...WITH SUNDAYS STRONG WAVES IN THE DESERT SOUTHWEST
AND NRN STREAM COMING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. VISIBLE IMAGERY
SHOWING TONIGHTS WALL-OF-MOISTURE COMING AT THE FORECAST AREA WITH
THE LEADING EDGE NOW IN SOUTHERN IA. THERE ARE TWO MOIST SURGES
AND WARM FRONTS...ONE ON THE LEADING CLOUD LINE FROM KOMA-KSTL
AND THE MORE POTENT AREA NEAR AND SOUTH OF WICHITA KS. MANY 12Z
SOUNDINGS SHOWING THE AIR MASS FORECAST BY THE MODEL GUIDANCE TO
ADVECT IN OVERNIGHT...KTOP /INITIAL MOIST SURGE/...KSGF AND KLIT
/DEEPER MOIST SURGE/. SO...CONFIDENCE OF THE CHARACTER OF THIS AIR
MASS IS HIGH BASED ON SIMPLY ADVECTING NORTHWARD WHAT WE SEE IN
THE OBSERVATIONS /50-60F DEWPOINTS WOW/.

STRUGGLES WITH CONFIDENCE LIE IN THE NORTHWEST EXTENT OF THE
PRECIPITATION. SURFACE-BASED MOIST LAYER IS DEEPEST ACROSS SWRN
WI/EASTERN NE IA AT ABOUT 1.5 KMS...WITH A SHALLOWING NW OF KLSE
TO ABOUT .75 KMS AT KRST/KEAU. IN FACT...ACROSS THE SOUTH THERE IS
SOME SMALL SIGNAL FOR CONVECTIVE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD CAUSE A DEEP
CLOUD PROCESS AND RADAR THIS AFTERNOON IN ERN KS DOES CONFIRM SOME
CONVECTIVE BUMPS. SHOULD IT BE SHALLOW CLOUD OR DEEP CLOUD...THE
RESULT IS RA/FZRA/DZ/FZDZ DEPENDING ON SURFACE TEMPERATURE.
THUS...HAVE INCREASED PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS AND ICING IN SWRN WI
AND NERN IA BASED ON BETTER PARAMETER SPACE FOR THE WARM CLOUD
RAINFALL PROCESS /0.10 INCHES/...AND LIFTED ADVISORY NORTHWARD
MIDDAY TO ACCOUNT FOR I-90 IN WI/FAR EASTERN MN WHERE WE FEEL A
COMPROMISE OF JUST ENOUGH DEPTH TO SURFACE-BASED CLOUD AND JUST
ENOUGH LIFT EXIST FOR SOME VERY LIGHT ICING. WITH ABOVE NORMAL
TRAVEL OCCURRING TONIGHT IN WI...FELT THIS WAS THE PRUDENT CHOICE
EVEN THROUGH CONFIDENCE DIMINISHES FOR OUTCOMES FURTHER NORTHWEST
TONIGHT. CONFIDENCE IS LOWER ON THE LIFT WITHIN THE CLOUD LAYER
FURTHER NORTH AS ONLY WEAK WARM ADVECTION AFFECTS THE LOW-LAYER
CLOUD. KS/NEB SHORTWAVE TROUGH ENERGY SEEMS TO WORK ON THE
UPSTAIRS CLOUD...ABOVE SAY 600 MB. LATE EVENING THROUGH ABOUT 3-5
AM SHOULD BE THE MAIN GLAZE PERIOD.

TEMPERATURES ARE WARMING OVERNIGHT AS WARM FRONTS APPROACH...BUT
WITH PROLONGED SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES OVER THE PAST 9
DAYS...HAVE KEPT FZRA EVEN WITH AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURES ABOVE
32F. ROAD TEMPERATURES TODAY WITH SUNSHINE HAVE REACHED THE
30S...AND THESE MAY HOLD OR RISE OVERNIGHT. BUT LESSER TRAVELED
ROADS AND UNTREATED SURFACES WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS TOO OVERNIGHT.
SATURDAY MORNING SHOULD SEE QUICKLY IMPROVING CONDITIONS AFTER A
LIGHT GLAZING OVERNIGHT AS TEMPERATURES QUICKLY WARM.

.LONG TERM...(SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY)
ISSUED AT 345 PM CST FRI NOV 21 2014

NEXT MOIST SURGE MOVES IN WITH A STRONG WARM FRONT SATURDAY
EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. MODEL SIGNALS OF WARM FRONTAL
LIFT...850MB MOISTURE TRANSPORT CONVERGENCE...AND MOISTURE
ADVECTION SEEM TO SCREAM RAIN CHANCES SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN MODEL
SOLUTIONS IN PRECIPITATION FIELDS. THUS...HAVE INCREASED SATURDAY
EVENING RAIN CHANCES WITH WARM FRONT MOVING IN AND ONSET
PRECIPITATION TIME IS EARLIER THAN PREVIOUS FORECASTS. STILL
LOOKING AT ALL RAIN AND SATURDAY NIGHT SHOULD HAVE A NICE WARMING
INTO THE 40S. HAVE ALSO INCREASED FOG COVERAGE SATURDAY NIGHT...IT
COULD GET PRETTY THICK...AND A DENSE FOG ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED.

SUNDAY BRING THE COMBINATION OF MOISTURE FROM THE SOUTHERN STREAM
AND THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH ENERGY FORCING...AND A WELL-AGREED UPON
RAINY DAY STILL FROM NERN IA INTO NERN WI. THE QUESTION STILL
REMAINS ON WHERE THE WESTERN EDGE OF THIS PRECIPITATION WILL SET
UP. NOT A GREAT DEAL OF CHANGE SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT FROM
PREVIOUS FORECAST. RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 0.50 TO 1.00 INCHES SEEMS
ABOUT RIGHT FOR SWRN-CTRL WI. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THIS WILL CAUSE
RIVER ISSUES AT THIS TIME BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT. ICE IS
NOT THICK ENOUGH...NOR WILL RIVERS RISE ENOUGH TO CAUSE ICE JAM
ISSUES.

AT THIS TIME...IT APPEARS THE MODEL CONSENSUS AGREES THAT ONLY
MINOR PRECIPITATION WOULD GO INTO SNOW SUNDAY NIGHT AS COLDER AIR
MOVES IN. HAVE INCREASED THE CENTRAL WI SNOWFALL AMOUNTS TO 1
INCH. HOWEVER...THERE IS STILL SPREAD ON THIS PERIOD ON WESTERN
PRECIPITATION EDGE AND THE WRAP AROUND DEFORMATION VERSUS DRY
PUNCH COMING INTO THE SYSTEM. SO...THIS PERIOD WILL BE REFINED IN
FUTURE FORECASTS.

ANOTHER COLD PERIOD BEGINS MONDAY AND CURRENT THANKSGIVING HIGHS
ARE IN THE TEENS AS A COLD AIR MASS SETTLES IN AFTER A WEAK SYSTEM
WEDNESDAY. THIS AIR MASS IN THE NAEFS IS ABOUT 2 STANDARD
DEVIATIONS BELOW NORMAL FOR THURSDAY...BUT THE DETERMINISTIC RUNS
/ECMWF 22.12Z/ SUGGEST VALUES CLOSER TO 3 DEVIATIONS...UNUSUAL/RARE
COLD.

&&

.AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z SATURDAY NIGHT)
ISSUED AT 1120 PM CST FRI NOV 21 2014

-RA/-DZ PUSHING NORTHEAST ACROSS EASTERN IA...HEADING INTO
WESTERN/SOUTHERN WI LATE THIS EVENING. LOW CIGS HAVE ALREADY SPREAD
ACROSS KRST/KLSE...AND WITH PUSH OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE/WARM AIR
ADVECTION...ANTICIPATE SOME -DZ DEVELOPMENT AT KLSE. KRST WILL
LIKELY STAY WEST OF THE PCPN. WHILE AIR TEMPS SHOULD STEADY OR
SLOWLY RISE...ROAD TEMPS ARE FREEZING...AND THUS -FZDZ WILL BE THE
LIKELY PCPN TYPE FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS. WITH THE CONTINUED
WARMING EXPECT MOST PCPN TO SWITCH OF TO -RA/-DZ EARLY/MID MORNING
SAT.

IFR/MVFR CIGS ARE LIKELY TO STICK AROUND WELL INTO SUNDAY...PER
RAP/HRRR/GFS/NAM BUFKIT SOUNDINGS. THAT SAID...SOME HINTS THAT THERE
COULD BE SOME IMPROVEMENT...PERHAPS EVEN BRIEF SCATTERING...FOR LATE
AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING. CONFIDENCE NOT HIGH HERE...SO WILL HOLD
ONTO THE LOW CIGS FOR NOW.

-RA/DZ LOOKS TO BECOME WIDESPREAD SAT NIGHT WITH ANOTHER SURGE OF
LOW LEVEL MOISTURE COUPLED WITH ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE ON THE 280-290 K
SFCS. CIGS SHOULD LOWER AND FOG BECOMES A GREATER
LIKELIHOOD...ADDING ANOTHER VSBY RESTRICTOR IN ADDITION TO THE
EXPECTED PCPN.

925 MB WINDS AT KDVN AT 35 KTS BUT UP TO 45 KTS AT KGRB. RAP/NAM12
BUFKIT SOUNDINGS HAVE WINDS IN THE 45-50 KT RANGE BY 2 KFT THROUGH
09Z...IMPROVING AFTER THAT. WILL CONTINUE MENTION FOR KLSE IN
FORECAST.

&&

.ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WI...FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY FROM 9 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 AM CST
     SATURDAY FOR WIZ054-055-061.

     FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 AM CST
     SATURDAY FOR WIZ041>044-053.

MN...FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 AM CST
     SATURDAY FOR MNZ096.

IA...FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY FROM 9 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 AM CST
     SATURDAY FOR IAZ008>011-018-019-029-030.

&&

$$

SHORT TERM...BAUMGARDT
LONG TERM...BAUMGARDT
AVIATION....RIECK



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