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FXUS62 KGSP 290559

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
159 AM EDT MON AUG 29 2016

A tropical system will move toward the North Carolina Outer Banks
through Tuesday before likely moving back out to sea by mid week. A
cold front will approach the region from the northwest Wednesday
night into Thursday, with another tropical system likely emerging
from the Gulf of Mexico. There remains a great deal of uncertainty
with the Gulf system but there are no imminent threats to our area
at this point.


As of 150 AM, Broad circulation associated with weak upper low off
the GA coast shows up nicely in water vapor imagery early this
morning. Some light radar returns are showing up within the outer
reaches of this circulation as far west as central NC. Some
mesoscale models indicate shower potential across our SE zones  this
morning, although based upon the latest radar trends upstream, this
appears to be a bit too aggressive. Nevertheless, will allow pops to
creep into the slight chance range across our southern tier by

Expect patchy dense mountain valley fog to develop overnight, with
some low clouds possible across the I-77 corridor.  Although
instability is present on Monday, model soundings suggest
significant drying in the afternoon, ostensibly related to
subsidence on the west side of a coastal tropical system. This would
limit convective chances over much of our area. Temperatures will
run near normal.


As of 200 PM EDT Sunday, Tropical Depression Eight (or a named
system) will likely be positioned just off the NC Outer Banks
Tuesday morning - situated in a weakness in the upper level ridge
along the East Coast. The main question for our forecast area will
be whether or not any tropical moisture from the system can work
west across the piedmont. Consensus keeps the better moisture
confined to the coast, with very low end precipitation chances
reaching our lower piedmont, and a secondary and better maximum of
PoP over the mountain ridges in scattered diurnal convection.

Falling heights from the north on Wednesday should permit the
coastal tropical circulation to begin moving back out over the open
water. Meanwhile, a surface cold front will slowly approach from the
northwest but remain NW of the area through late day. Again, the
bifurcated PoP forecast will feature slight chance eastern piedmont
PoPs but with the best focus for continued diurnal thunderstorm
chances over the mountains. Temperatures will continue slightly
above climo.

Any development in the Gulf with the current 99L system, and
associated impacts on the western Carolinas and NE GA, should become
much more apparent by Tue/Wed.  No adjustments to sensible weather
from this system will be needed for our area through late Wed at
this point.


As of 215 PM EDT Sunday, the medium range fcst picks up at 00Z on
Thursday with an upper trof digging down over the Great Lakes and
a very steep upper ridge spreading over the central CONUS. In
addition, a tropical disturbance that is currently located just
north of Cuba is expected to be located off the west coast of
Florida by the start of the medium range. As we move into Friday,
the trof axis will move NE of the fcst area and eventually move
offshore while the upper ridge spreads farther east eventually
encompassing most of the CONUS. At the sfc, a fairly complex
synoptic pattern will likely exist to start the period early
Thursday. The tropical low corresponding to the above mentioned
upper low is expected to be located a couple hundred miles off the
west coast of Florida. The long range models continue to differ
with respect to the strengthening of the system and to a lesser
extent the track, over the next few days. As has been the case
for days now, the ECMWF has a deeper low and moves the system
faster and farther north than the GFS. The CMC is also deeper
than the GFS and moves the low even farther westward and then
inland than the ECMWF. The main discrepancy lies in the strength
of the Canadian sfc high that settles over the Great Lakes on
Thurs and Fri. If the high is strong enough and able to move far
enough south early in the period, it will keep the low from
advancing as far north on Fri and Sat. By Sunday, the models agree
that the high will be sliding off the New England Coast and will
have less of an impact steering the tropical low. As for the
sensible fcst, if the current 12Z GFS solution verifies our CWFA
would remain mostly dry. If the older 00Z ECMWF verifies, we would
see more deep moisture over our SE zones but drier air over NW
half of the CWFA. Only the Canadian solution brings deep tropical
moisture over the entire fcst area, and thus widespread precipitation.
I have opted for a blend of the GFS and ECMWF solutions with solid
chance POPs on Thurs, Fri, and Sat and mostly dry conditions for
Sunday. Temps will start out above climatology and cool to near
or even slightly below climo by the weekend.


At KCLT and elsewhere (except KAVL): VFR conditions are forecast
through the period. Moisture rotating around weak/broad circulation
off the GA coast could result in a few light showers and/or a brief
MVFR/low VFR cigs later this morning, but opted to advertise only
SCT low clouds, while precip chances aren`t worth a mention attm.
Otherwise, NE winds will continue through the period, maintaining a
relatively dry/stable air mass that should keep any convection from
developing this afternoon.

At KAVL: conditions appear ripe for a fog/low stratus even later
this morning. Tempos for LIFR conditions are included after 08Z,
becoming prevailing by 08Z. Would not be surprised to see at least
brief periods of VLIFR. Conditions should improve to VFR shortly
after sunrise. Isolated convection is expected over the mtns this
afternoon, but the bulk of this activity should remain west of

Outlook: Ridging will persist across the region through mid week.
Convective chances may be limited by sinking air to the west of a
tropical system at the coast. Patchy fog will be most favored in
mountain valleys.

Confidence Table...

            06-12Z        12-18Z        18-24Z        00-06Z
KCLT       High 100%     High  88%     High 100%     High 100%
KGSP       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KAVL       Med   79%     High  80%     High 100%     High 100%
KHKY       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KGMU       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KAND       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%

The percentage reflects the number of guidance members agreeing
with the scheduled TAF issuance flight rule category. Complete hourly
experimental aviation forecast consistency tables and ensemble forecasts
are available at the following link:




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