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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
308 PM CDT WED OCT 29 2014

.SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY)
ISSUED AT 200 PM CDT WED OCT 29 2014

STRATUS HAS BEEN VERY HESITANT TO BUDGE TODAY AS MOIST CYCLONIC FLOW
HAS BEEN SLOW TO GIVE WAY TO A SFC RIDGE THAT WAS SLOWLY WORKING
ACROSS WRN MN. THIS HAS KEPT MUCH OF CENTRAL MN IN THE UPPER 30S
TODAY...WHICH IS A GOOD 15 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL.

OUR NEXT WEATHER SYSTEM IS ALREADY SCREAMING ACROSS THE DAKOTAS
TODAY. HAVE NOT CHANGED MUCH WITH THE FORECAST TO WHAT WE HAD IN
LAST NIGHT AS TIMING STILL LOOKS GOOD...AND REFLECTIVITY FORECASTS
CERTAINLY DO NOT INSTILL MUCH CONFIDENCE IN GOING WITH ANYTHING
HIGHER THAN A 40 POP TONIGHT. STILL THE BIG ISSUE FOR PRECIP TONIGHT
IS THE AMOUNT OF DRY AIR THAT IS MOVING IN AHEAD OF THIS WAVE...AS
SEEN IN THE 29.12 SOUNDING FROM ABERDEEN THIS MORNING. MOST HI-RES
AND DETERMINISTIC OUTPUT SHOW SOME LIGHT PRECIP MOVING INTO WRN MN
BETWEEN 3Z AND 6Z TONIGHT...BUT FALLING APART AS IT MOVES EAST AS
THE PRIMARY PV ANOMALY WITH THIS WAVE DIVES SOUTH INTO IOWA.

WHAT THIS WAVE WILL DO IS SPREAD PLENTY OF CLOUD COVER BETWEEN 6K
AND 10K FEET BACK ACROSS THE AREA TONIGHT. THAT COMBINED WITH LIGHT
SRLY WINDS OUT AHEAD OF THE SFC LOW/TROUGH WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURE
DROPS TONIGHT TO BASICALLY LESS THAN 10 DEGREES FROM TEMPERATURES
CURRENTLY OUT THERE THIS AFTERNOON. THIS MEANS WE WILL BE COLD
ENOUGH TO MIX A FEW SNOWFLAKES IN WITH ANY RAIN THAT CAN MAKE TO THE
GROUND NORTH OF I-94 TONIGHT...BUT WITH MINIMAL QPF EXPECTED...WE
WILL NOT SEE ANY ACCUMULATIONS EITHER.

FOR TOMORROW...THE WARMEST CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE
MORNING...AS THE AFTERNOON WILL BE MARKED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF
BREEZY NW WINDS AND CAA. THOUGH THE STRONGEST CAA LOOKS TO HOLD OFF
UNTIL THE START OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD. STILL...THE CAA COMBINED
WITH ANOTHER BATCH OF STRATUS WILL HELP HOLD TEMPERATURES STEADY OR
EVEN ALLOW THEM TO DROP A DEGREES OR TWO DURING THE AFTERNOON ACROSS
CENTRAL AND WRN MN.

.LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY)
ISSUED AT 200 PM CDT WED OCT 29 2014

LONG RANGE TRENDS CONTINUE ON A COLD NOTE IN THE WAKE OF THE
WESTERN GREAT LAKES TROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. COULD SEE A SMALL
CHANCE OF RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS OVER A PORTION OF THE WISCONSIN CWA
INTO OVERNIGHT AS TEMPERATURES/CRITICAL THICKNESS VALUES DROP OFF.
THE COLD SURFACE HIGH FOLLOWS WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES
WITH FRIDAY LOOKING TO BE THE COLDEST FOR THE NEXT WEEK ACROSS THE
CWA.

SOUTHERLY WINDS DEVELOP SATURDAY ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE WESTERN
CWA. SOME GUSTS OVER 30 MPH OVER THIS REGION OF THE STATE SATURDAY
AFTERNOON. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN UP INTO THE NIGHT AS THE NEXT COLD
FRONT/SURFACE LOW DEVELOPS OVER THE DAKOTAS INTO SUNDAY. WARMER AIR
WILL MOVE OUT AHEAD OF THE TROUGH WITH SOME 50S EXPECTED SUNDAY
AND MONDAY. THE GFS IS MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED WITH THIS SYSTEM WITH
THE 12Z ECMWF PARTIALLY SPLIT AND TAKING MUCH OF THE MOISTURE
SOUTH AND EAST. WILL CONTINUE THE CHANCE POPS FOR MONDAY INTO
MONDAY NIGHT AS BOTH MODELS SUGGEST A COLD FRONT MOVING THROUGH.
DOESNT APPEAR TO BE SIGNIFICANT AT THE MOMENT...BUT ENOUGH COLD MAY
MAY WORK IN FOR A CHANCE OF MIXED/CHANGE OVER TO SOME WET
SNOW...MAINLY INTO WEST CENTRAL WISCONSIN MONDAY NIGHT. WILL HAVE TO
MONITOR LONG TERM MODEL TRENDS ON THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM.

&&

.AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY AFTERNOON)
ISSUED AT 1238 PM CDT WED OCT 29 2014

STRATUS HAS BEEN STUBBORN TO DEPART WITH MOIST CYCLONIC FLOW STILL
IN PLACE. HOWEVER...AS THE RIDGE AXIS STARTS TO NUDGE EAST ACROSS
SW MN...WE HAVE STARTED TO SEE THE WRN EDGE OF THE CLOUDS SHIELD
BREAKUP OVER THE LAST HOUR. THE HRRR HAS HAD A GOOD HANDEL ON THE
CLOUDS THIS MORNING...SO FOLLOWED IT TO TREND IMPROVEMENTS TO VFR
FROM SW TO NE THIS AFTERNOON. BASED ON SATELLITE TRENDS OVER THE
LAST HOUR...THE HRRR...ALONG WITH THESE TAFS ARE TOO SLOW IN
CLEARING OUT THESE CLOUDS IF ANYTHING. NEXT SYSTEM TO IMPACT US IS
ALREADY DIVING SE INTO NW NODAK. NAM AND HI-RES MODELS SHOW
SHOWERS PUSHING INTO WRN MN...BUT DRYING UP PRETTY QUICK AFTER
THAT...SO REMOVED VCSH MENTION FROM ALL BUT AXN. WINDS WILL BE
PRETTY LIGHT OVERNIGHT AS THE SFC LOW WORKS ACROSS THE AREA...WITH
BLUSTERY NW WINDS DEVELOPING THU MORNING OUT WEST IN ITS WAKE.
BESIDE THE RETURN OF NW WINDS...THE NAM/GFS/SREF ALL SHOW A BAND
OF MVFR CIGS WORKING IN BEHIND THE SYSTEM AS WELL...THOUGH WE
SHOULD NOT SEE MVFR CIGS ARRIVE IN CENTRAL MN UNTIL LATE THU
MORNING.

KMSP...IF ANYTHING...IMPROVEMENT TO VFR MAY BE TOO LATE IN THE
TAF...THOUGH STILL DO NOT EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN UNTIL 20Z AT THE
EARLIEST. WE MAY SEE A SPRINKLE OR TWO IN THE MORNING AS THE SFC
LOW WORKS ACROSS THE FIELD...THOUGH COVERAGE LOOKS PRETTY
SPARSE...SO WENT WITH THE DRY TAF. CONFIDENCE IS HIGH IN MVFR CIGS
RETURNING ABOUT 24 HOURS FROM NOW. WE WILL LIKELY SEE THEM CLEAR
OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE TAF...ALONG WITH NW WINDS BECOMING
STRONGER AND GUSTING...BUT THIS FAR OUT...DID NOT GET TOO QUITE
WITH HOURS 27-30 OF THE TAF.

/OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/
FRI...VFR. WINDS N 10-15 KTS.
SAT...VFR. WINDS SE 10-15 KTS.
SUN...VFR. WINDS SSE 10-15 KTS.


&&

.MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MN...NONE.
WI...NONE.
&&

$$

SHORT TERM...MPG
LONG TERM...DWE
AVIATION...MPG








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