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FXUS63 KMQT 160454

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Marquette MI
1154 PM EST Wed Nov 15 2017

.SHORT TERM...(This evening through Thursday)
Issued at 259 PM EST WED NOV 15 2017

...Gusty winds into Thu morning along with some snow...

Upper level trough over Upper Great Lakes has two individual
shortwaves within it. Sfc low over eastern Lk Superior is generally
tied to first shortwave sliding across eastern WI at present. Once
this low exits eastern Lk Superior later this aftn, expect north to
northwest winds to increase to 30-45 mph on Lk Superior and adjacent
shoreline areas. Have a SPS out to highlight gusty winds and since
the stronger winds will build waves into the 14-17 ft range, have
lakeshore flood advisories out for Marquette and Alger counties.

Seond shortwave currently upstream over northern MN will result in
lake enhanced precipitation setup late aftn into early overnight
hours as it brings period of lift and deeper moisture to h7/10kft
across Lk Superior and northern to eastern U.P. As sfc-850mb low
slides east of Lk Superior, north to northwest winds along with
larger scale lift will increase precip for west and north central
this evening into early overnight. Soundings indicate rain/drizzle
this aftn will mix with/change to snow by 00z over west and through
the evening over central. Based on current obs, seems the model
guidance is running a bit fast on changeover so made appropriate
adjustments. Did just receive a call near Michigamme and Three
Lakes indicating some snow is beginning to mix in. On edge of
deeper moisture over west and southwest forecast area, could even
see drizzle/freezing drizzle at times this evening. Now, even with
the deeper moisture and lift ongoing this evening, inversion
heights remain 3-4kft and temps at inversion top only drop to
around -10c so lake enhanced precip should only be light to
moderate. SLRs will stay held down as most lift is occurring at
temps warmer than -8c.

Overall in terms of snow there could be snow amounts of 1-3 inches
tonight into Thu morning, especially for higher terrain of
west/northwest and north central U.P. If second shortwave was
stronger and it was slightly colder then the snow over all of
northern Upper Michigan would end up being more impressive. Yet,
since the snow will be wetter and near sfc temps are still cold,
will not take much snow to build up a slush/snow layer on
untreated roads later tonight as temps cool back into the 25-30F
range. Even a thin layer of slush/snow could lead to sloppy travel.
Stronger winds could also result in patchy blowing snow in exposed
areas near Lk Superior. Despite the strong winds, limited blowing
snow to patchy since sfc temps in upper 20s to near 30F are
marginal for blowing snow issues since it is a wetter snow.

With northeast to north winds on Thu morning, expect light lake
effect snow showers over north central and west. Skies will try to
clear out partially in the late morning and aftn west and scntrl
before higher clouds move in from the west. Clouds will hold down
temps northwest and north central in the upper 20s to near 30F.
Readings will be in the low to mid 30s elsewhere.

.LONG TERM...(Thursday night through Wednesday)
Issued at 425 PM EST WED NOV 15 2017

Models suggest that a progressive pattern will prevail over the
northern CONUS from late this week into early next week with a mid
level trough departing Thu followed by another from Friday into
Saturday. Similar to the previous system, widespread rain possibly
some fzra will give way to LES with strong CAA behind the low.

The models have converged toward the more consistent
ECMWF which remains slightly slower than the GFS/GEFS. So, overall
confidence in the pcpn/winds forecasts has improved.

Following closer to the 00Z/12Z ECMWF, expect widespread pcpn mainly
as rain to spread across Upper Michigan Friday into Friday evening
with fairly strong WAA and moisture advection (PWAT above 0.75 inch)
as the sfc trough moves through the Upper MS valley into the western
Great Lakes. The WAA pcpn should diminish from west to east Fri
evening as the sfc trough moves through much of the cwa.

There may be some fzra mixed with snow west and central late Thu
night with an elevated warm layer developing. Any fzra should change
over to rain midday as temps climb into the mid 30s. Fzra or ice
potential will be limited by initial dry 900-700 mb layer as noted
on fcst soundings.

CAA and nw flow LES will develop Saturday behind the deepening low
with periods of moderate LES and some heavier bands possible by late
Sat as the mid-level trough axis rotates through the area. 850 mb
temps down to around -8C by late Saturday should drop to near -14C
Sunday morning.  Lingering LES will diminish Sunday as sfc and mid
level ridging builds into the area.

Monday-Tuesday, model confidence in details regarding a clipper
shortwave depicted by the GFS/ECMWF/GEM is low but CAA associated
with this feature could bring LES back into the area Tue into Wed
for the nw wind snowbelts.

.AVIATION...(For the 06Z TAFS through 06Z Thursday night)
Issued at 1154 PM EST WED NOV 15 2017

With upslope northerly winds and -shsn, expect MVFR and at times IFR
conditions at KIWD/KCMX/KSAW overnight. KIWD/KCMX are more likely to
see IFR conditions. In addition, at KCMX, stronger winds and more
persistent -shsn may lead to some LIFR conditions for the next
couple of hrs. Arrival of drier air with approaching sfc high pres
ridge will lead to improving conditions today as -shsn end. MVFR
cigs will improve to VFR at KIWD/KCMX this aftn and at KSAW this

.MARINE...(For the 4 PM Lake Superior forecast issuance)
Issued at 259 PM EST WED NOV 15 2017

North-northwest winds behind the exiting surface low will ramp up
across the lake later this afternoon/evening through the overnight
hours, with gale force winds of 35 to 40 knots expected across much
of the lake. Winds will diminish to around or less than 20 knots by
Thu afternoon. A low pressure trough will then cross the region Fri
while deepening over the central to lower Great Lakes later in the
weekend. Expect south gales of 35-40 kts over the east half of Lk
Superior on Fri with northwest gales to 35 kts possible later Sat
into SUn morning. In between the two possible gale events, winds
should drop down to between 15 to 25 knots as the surface pressure
gradient is relaxed along the surface trough axis.

Upper Michigan...
  Lakeshore Flood Advisory until 10 AM EST Thursday for MIZ005-006.

Lake Superior...
  Gale Warning until 10 AM EST Thursday for LSZ248>251-266-267.

  Gale Warning until 7 AM EST Thursday for LSZ243>245-264-265.

  Gale Warning until 4 AM EST Thursday for LSZ263.

Lake Michigan...
  Gale Warning until 7 AM EST Thursday for LMZ221-248-250.



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