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FXUS63 KFGF 190439
AFDFGF

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND
1139 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

.UPDATE...
ISSUED AT 1135 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

DELAYED POPS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST OTHERWISE NO REAL CHANGES TO
CURRENT THINKING/FORECAST.

UPDATE ISSUED AT 933 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

NO UPDATE NEEDED AT THIS TIME. SOME WEAK ECHOES IN CENTRAL ND
HEADING THIS WAY. SO FAR NOT IMPRESSED AS NOT SURE ANYTHING IS
REACHING THE GROUND BUT WILL KEEP LOW POPS GOING AS MESOSCALE
MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW SOME EXPANSION IN COVERAGE LATER THIS
EVENING.

UPDATE ISSUED AT 619 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

MAIN CHALLENGE THIS EVENING WILL BE RAIN CHANCES IN STRONG WARM
ADVECTION ZONE AHEAD OF APPROACHING TROUGH. CURRENTLY SOME WEAK
ECHOES ACROSS THE NORTHERN VALLEY. SOME ISOLD LTG STRIKES EARLIER
BUT CONVECTION HAS OUT RUN WHAT INSTABILITY THERE WAS. HAVE ISOLD
SPRINKLE MENTION INTO EARLY EVENING FOR THIS AREA. WILL MONITOR
TRENDS ELSEWHERE THROUGH THE EVENING. NO OTHER CHANGES.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT)
ISSUED AT 339 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

CHALLENGE FOR THIS FORECAST INCLUDE POPS PLACEMENT WITH ACTIVE
PERIOD SETTING UP FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS. MODELS HANDLING GENERAL
SYNOPTIC FEATURES WELL WITH THE NORMAL SPREAD IN CONVECTIVE QPFS
GENERATED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.

THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD WILL CONTINUE TO SEE LOW
LEVEL JET BRINGING MOISTURE AND WARMER BLYR TEMPS TO THE AREA.
WITH WAA AND MOISTURE STREAMING INTO THE REGION MIXING WILL
OFFSET SUNDOWN AND ALLOW SFC WINDS TO STAY UP. LATER TONIGHT...
AROUND 9Z...HRRR/RAP/HOP-WRF ENSEMBLE BRING IN SOME CONVECTION
ACROSS THE CENTRAL VALLEY...WILL KEEP THE CHANCE OF SHRA AND
THUNDER.

BY FRIDAY 1.5 INCH PWATS WITH A SFC TROUGH AND WESTERLY WINDS
NOSE INTO THE WESTERN CWFA. THE MOISTURE/INSTABILITY COMBINED
WITH THE SLOW MOVING TROUGH AND ZONAL FLOW WILL ALLOW FOR THE
POTENTIAL FOR ANY WEAK PERTURBATION IN THE FLOW TO INITIATE SHOWER
AND THUNDERSTORMS. BEST CHANCE WILL BE ALONG THE TRACK OF THE SFC
LOW WHERE MODELS AGREEMENT IS DEPICTING IT ACROSS THE NORTHERN
VALLEY INTO NW MN.

.LONG TERM...(SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY)
ISSUED AT 339 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

THE NEXT SHORT WAVE IS ESCORTED ON THE NOSE OF 300MB JET
SATURDAY. COLD CORE ALOFT WITH -20C ADVECTING IN AT 500MB WILL
BRING AFTERNOON SHOWERS AND THUNDER POTENTIAL...GIVEN THE CURRENT
TIMING BEST CHANCES WILL BE IN NW MN. WIND POTENTIAL IN ITS WAKE
IS A CONCERN ACROSS E ND AND RRV AS 30 TO 35 KTS OF NW WIND MAY
MIX TO NEAR 800MB.

EXTENDED PERIOD BEGINS WITH LONG WAVE RIDGE OVER PACIFIC NORTHWEST
WITH TROUGH OVER GREAT LAKES. NORTHWEST DRY FLOW INDICATED FOR THE
NORTHERN PLAINS AS THE UPPER PATTERN TRANSITIONS TO THE EAST THROUGH
THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THIS WOULD PLACE RIDGE OVER FORECAST AREA
TUE/WED ACCOMPANIED BY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS BY 5 TO 10 DEGREES. SOME
DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN GFS AND ECMWF ENTERS THE PICTURE BY LATER
WEDNESDAY WITH TROUGHINESS IN THE GFS AND MORE OF A CLOSED LOW FOR
THE ECMWF. EITHER OF THESE SOLUTIONS INTRODUCES LOW POPS TO THE
FORECAST DURING THIS TIME.

&&

.AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z FRIDAY NIGHT)
ISSUED AT 1135 PM CDT THU SEP 18 2014

STRATUS TAKING SHAPE ACROSS NE/SE SD LIFTING NORTH SO MAINTAINED
MENTION OF LOWER CIGS ACROSS THE SOUTH AND EAST DURING THE MID
MORNING. REMAINDER OF THE FA SHOULD REMAIN VFR. SPOTTY SHRA MOVING
INTO THE CENTRAL VALLEY WITH MORE UPSTREAM PCPN BUT PRETTY FAR
WEST. LIMITED SHRA MENTION TO FAR/GFK WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY
ELSEWHERE.

&&

.FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
ND...NONE.
MN...NONE.
&&

$$

UPDATE...VOELKER
SHORT TERM...JK
LONG TERM...WJB/JK
AVIATION...VOELKER





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